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you're in the paracast

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the gold standard of paranormal radio

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and now

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chris is back from his hiatus on the

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power cast this week we've got a really

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fascinating show with lots and lots of

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from our listeners it's going to be a

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really interesting piece of information

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in any case we haven't had a chance to

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talk to chris very much about the

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international ufo congress

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i don't know chris whether you saw the

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newspaper story in the arizona republic

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which was picked up by usa today

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which made it seem like it was just a

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seminar

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and a bunch of healing sessions for

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people who were abducted by ufos what

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did they miss

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well obviously that kind of coverage is

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unfortunately we do have a lot of folks

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out there that still haven't gotten the

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message that this is a serious subject

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it deserves serious attention it

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deserves the powers of diagnostic hard

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science thrown at it instead they just

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go for the um the convenient lady

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molding alien heads or um the guy with

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his implant uh finding device or

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you know people that have had uh

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experiences that they can't explain and

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would like some sort of help with i find

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it very disingenuous for reporters to go

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to an event like the ufo congress and

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report a thin slice

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of information about the proceedings i i

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felt this year that openminds did an

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excellent job it's taken them a little

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zero in i think on a format in terms of

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of the kinds of speakers that really

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deserve to be listened to uh

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james gilan for instance is not someone

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that i would give uh more than just a

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you know i've i joked with a few people

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that uh anytime you see someone playing

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a native american flute who's not native

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american at a ufo convention run the

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other way the only people i've ever seen

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do that are stan romanek and james

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that the presenters were very well

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chosen you know being one of the

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presenters this year um i kind of feel

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strange saying that but

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that they really are attempting john rio

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presenters that are above the giggle

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factor for the most part uh they're

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so you gotta have your your occasional

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guru who heals people over the phone for

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friends mark pilkington and i spent a

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he was probably the least popular

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speaker uh you know i've never seen

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stanton friedman get up line up at an

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raring to go of course mark was quite

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controversial with his comment that

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every single crop circle ever made was

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made by humans a lot of people took

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all in all it was a great uh it was a

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really good congress i i think they're

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improving every year

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videographers videotaping the whole

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internet connection and you could be

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arizona state university is about 20

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tens of thousands of young people and

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there was a way to attract that audience

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we would reach a new generation

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of people who are apt to be interested

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in what's going on they're concerned

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of things and certainly all these

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strange things that are happening they

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opportunity now i was just thinking as

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for another newspaper in the gannett

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later actually received a paycheck for a

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couple of years writing for the arizona

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republic so we have an affinity for that

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place but what seems to have happened

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the actual conference speakers looked

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around found the wackiest stuff and

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decided to write a story that's lazy

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reporting that's going in there and

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quick interviews because stanton

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for quite a while and that's it that's

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the story it's not who spoke at the

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event it's the photograph

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of alleged alien implants again i really

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to actually do his job and go in and and

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actual conference itself you know having

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information is is going to be viable for

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much longer the average age in that room

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of a semester over there so they'd only

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dorm rooms if it's done at a modest fee

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case we look forward to next year but i

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bob lazar anything new there

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a you know water under the bridge at

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this point i'd like to see somebody else

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from area 51 or some somewhere out on

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the on the test range there come forward

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and and become our new bob lazar and and

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you know maybe spill some uh spill some

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beans out there that we can sink our

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teeth into and learn something more

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in 20 seconds or less tell us about our

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well david uh

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childress is quite the uh

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amazing world traveler he's written

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dozens of books

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many people question his um suspension

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of disbelief in in his

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that um

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ancient aliens are responsible for

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megalithic sites

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found around the world that can't be

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i don't care

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who you are

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we can't even lift thousand ton blocks

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of stone uh ray's huge obelisk david has

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been a champion of diffusionist

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archaeology for many years he thinks the

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oceans were highways not barriers so

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it's going to be an interesting

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wild ride with david hatcher childers

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with gene and chris you're in the

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first game attack of the rockoids and it

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was a critically acclaimed success and

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now there's the coming of the protectors

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a former military intelligence man is

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contacted by a space woman in a dream a

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dream that turns out to be a nightmare

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after about a four-year absence we

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welcome back david hatcher childress of

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course we know him from

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his publishing company adventures

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unlimited press which has zillions of

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books did i say zillions and of course

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he's been very much involved in what he

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calls diffusionist archaeology and i

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have no idea what that means and he'll

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explain it to us david welcome back to

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the show and i think for those who

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haven't heard your earlier appearances

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maybe spend a few moments telling us

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about your background

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what attracted you to any kind of

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archaeology and how did you come to

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focus on such things as ancient

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astronauts

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well i you know i've always been

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interested in

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travel and archaeology and history i my

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parents are americans but i was actually

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born in france in the late late 50s and

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so my parents like to travel a lot and

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so i was i was fortunate as a young kid

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to travel in europe and mexico and

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pacific islands

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we went to

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turkey and greece and got to see things

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like stonehenge when i was younger and

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my father was also a real outdoorsy guy

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and loved to camp and hike and i

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basically grew up in in the mountains of

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colorado as a mountain climber and

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backpacker and skier and stuff but

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eventually uh i think you know like so

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many people and many of your listeners

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just uh grew up on a steady dose of

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johnny quest cartoons and kung fu

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episodes and man from uncle in the time

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tunnel and all that kind of stuff and so

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i'm very interested always in

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esp and

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atlanta's bigfoot

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ufos and whatnot and people from my

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generation too of as you will remember

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gene uh

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watching neil armstrong land on the moon

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and all that it was all

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so exciting back then and just a kind of

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a

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still 18 19.

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and went to uh i went to the far east

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actually as an english teacher and lived

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to taiwan and

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ultimately in hong kong and then later

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in thailand and traveled through through

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india and went to nepal and went

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climbing in the himalayas i'd always

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been interested of course in yetis and

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ultimate mountain climbing and

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going to tibet and spent monasteries and

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things like that and i was able to do

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all that uh

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later traveled across the middle east

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and even through afghanistan and iran

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and pakistan and and turkey and syria to

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jordan and then to israel

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later to

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greece again and egypt went to the great

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pyramid

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wanted to see all the egyptian stuff and

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then i traveled for

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almost three years in in africa and was

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i worked with a gathering company that

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that was catering to chevron oil in in

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sudan at the time and then suddenly i

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went from being just a

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three dollar a day backpacker to

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actually having some money in the bank

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and that allowed me to travel even more

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and i returned

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across the indian ocean went back to

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india

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and nepal and sri lanka that time and

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and again back to china and

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then i returned to the u.s finally in

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the early 80s and then i began traveling

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in uh south america and central america

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and the pacific islands and places like

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that and i've kept going all these years

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i finally i started writing books in the

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middle 80s and

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my first book was a book called the

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hitchhiker's guide to africa and arabia

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and then later i began writing

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my lost cities series which are regional

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there's there's one on

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on china central asia and india one on

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one in south america one on north and

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central america

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one on african arabia one on

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uh europe and the mediterranean and

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other areas too

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so that got me going and eventually i

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once i started writing books i was being

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published in chicago

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but my publisher one day

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kind of sat me down and told me not to

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quit my day job and

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and told me it was actually publishers

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that you know make the money rather than

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authors and at that point i thought well

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hey i'll be a publisher then

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and so i started adventures on limited

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press and ultimately a magazine called

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world explorer magazine and uh that's

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what i do today and i somehow make a

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living with all that publishing books

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and magazines and writing books

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as well and uh that's great and then now

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there's the ancient aliens tv show with

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giorgio and eric glendonkan and all

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those guys and and i get to be on that

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and it's it's a real uh pleasure and

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privilege you know to be part of all

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that i've and i enjoy it so it's

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here i am today i'm no looking back i

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guess okay let's look back at something

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else here ancient astronauts now the

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concept of ancient astronauts is nothing

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new to people who follow ufos and other

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literature

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there were writings about it even in the

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early 50s of course

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if you remember the contact d george

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adamski in his book flying saucers have

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landed the first part of the book

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written by desmond leslie a british

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researcher was about ancient astronauts

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there was also a fellow named jonah

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fortner who had the concept of

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extraterrestrialism

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which he

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referred to as

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the presence of

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advanced aliens in our past and he wrote

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for jim mosley saucer news a wild

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character in fact before we go on did

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you ever meet jonah at all

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uh no no i never did

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oh he's no longer with us but he was

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a first-rate character but okay let's

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get to the main focus here of a lot of

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what you're doing

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the possibility of the presence

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of advanced beings in our past

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so to be blunt about it david hatcher

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childress

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well uh you know

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of course that's a you know a simple

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question but i i don't really have a

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simple answer for it i'm not so sure

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that god's an e.t but perhaps angels are

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et's and certainly god's helpers are can

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be ets i think and it's more of a i

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guess

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in a way i would say that

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uh

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i mean i'm a spiritual person so i i

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believe in spirituality and um

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higher beings and

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i do believe in um

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oh uh sort of helper beings who are here

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to assist us even like the um

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you know the light beings that come

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during death experiences and stuff like

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that

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but a lot of the stories in the bible uh

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in other ancient texts

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do talk about

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uh yahweh as as

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as a god and yahweh this vengeful god

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who

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like with moses and the ark of the

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covenant you know he appears on that

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pillar of light in the cloud and

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he follows them he

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he actually

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incinerates people

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through through the ark of the covenant

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and

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in fact my new book that's what i'm

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working on now is is a book about the

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ark of the covenant and

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an ancient powers a life ad and

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that's one of the things that happens in

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in

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where

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supposedly god tells moses to build this

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ark of the covenant which is a basically

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a box of

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of wood and metal and then this special

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statue is to be built and placed on top

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of it of these

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two cherub two angels who are

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facing each other and they're they're

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holding like a bowl between them and

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this light appears in the bowl and that

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is that's god that's yahweh supposedly

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and yahweh tells moses all kinds of

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stuff and

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and even this ark of the covenant

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according to the bible flies ahead of

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them uh it's a

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they have to carry it in certain ways

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they they cover it

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this is robert hastings author of ufos

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and nukes and you're listening to the

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paracast the gold standard of paranormal

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david hatcher childress is with us and

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he has written in a number of books

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some of which focus

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on

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that advanced aliens visited us

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a couple thousand years ago and made a

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huge impact

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00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:37,360
now

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00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:39,120
there are so many facets of this we can

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00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,200
cover so let's get to

721
00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:43,679
the nuts and bolts here david and that

722
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:45,679
is if you're talking to somebody who

723
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:48,320
says how do we know this happen

724
00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:51,039
are there a few pieces of smoking gun

725
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:52,159
evidence

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00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:54,720
that you can cite to say this shows

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00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:58,000
we've been visited by advanced beings

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a thousand or two thousand years or

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00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:03,120
longer ago well for me uh

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00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:06,320
largely um archaeological evidence and i

731
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really

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uh work mainly as an archaeologist so

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00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:11,840
i'm constantly traveling all over the

734
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world and

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00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:16,880
looking mainly at megalithic ruins and

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00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:18,080
and

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00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:19,120
things that are

738
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:22,559
especially well made large um mysterious

739
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:25,840
in in that sense of giant blocks that

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00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:27,840
are that are quarried and

741
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:29,520
they're found all over the world

742
00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:32,480
you put those in context with

743
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:34,640
myths and legends um

744
00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:36,399
various stories and i'm you know i'm

745
00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:38,159
often very impressed by things that i

746
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:40,240
see other places are rather

747
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:43,200
disappointing in some sometimes

748
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:44,640
but when you put

749
00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:47,360
those things in context but particularly

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00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:48,799
very very

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00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:52,080
large megalithic ruins

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00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:56,320
things like tijuanako and in bolivia and

753
00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:59,120
many other ruins that are um

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00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:01,200
typically ascribed to the incas which

755
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:03,039
were very near to us

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00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:09,269
people who are supposedly primitive

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00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:13,360
and in the case of like incas incas

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00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:15,679
they allegedly didn't know about the

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wheel or

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00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:18,880
they didn't have iron tools they didn't

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00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:21,679
have riding either and yet they

762
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:24,159
supposedly built structures that we

763
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:25,520
couldn't even really

764
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build today and they're

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they're articulated and

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and in in many cases

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such as that at tiwanaka or pumapunk or

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something

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i mean they're so well built and

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00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:39,600
kind of there's a lot of fancy

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00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:42,720
articulation that's gone on there

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00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:45,039
yet it's supposedly done by people who

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are

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bashing out

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00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:49,679
ruins and with with rock hammers in

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their hands

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00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:53,360
and you you look at a lot of those

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things and

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00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:56,480
particularly just look at them

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00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:58,240
open-mindedly

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00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:00,799
they're not easily explained and

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the idea that primitive

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00:30:07,029 --> 00:30:05,360
simple people are making this and in

784
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:07,039
many cases the archaeologists just have

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00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:08,399
it wrong because

786
00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:10,159
they're actually

787
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:12,399
ascribing the the origin of these ruins

788
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:14,399
to somebody who probably didn't even

789
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:15,919
build them

790
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:17,919
so there you go with with things that

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are

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00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:20,799
quite tangible and that's i mean that's

793
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:22,880
the good part about um

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00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:24,000
i think the archaeology and the

795
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:26,080
megalithic ruins is that

796
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:28,000
they're there for people to see in some

797
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:29,919
cases you have to actually go underwater

798
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:31,360
to see some of them

799
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:34,480
the giant ruins at dan medal in the

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pacific

801
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:37,360
and that place is like the eighth wonder

802
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:40,399
of the world there's over 250

803
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:44,240
million tons of basalt are stacked up

804
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:46,880
not even on the island of ponte which is

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00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:48,480
in micronesia and

806
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it's relatively close to uh new guinea

807
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:52,000
actually

808
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:54,880
but the this 250 million tons of bath

809
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:56,320
salt

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00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,960
they're stacked up in in walls and and

811
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:00,799
artificial islands

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00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:03,440
and in the ocean they're

813
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:06,240
that giant city is is not even built

814
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:07,919
really on land

815
00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:10,080
uh yet most of it is above water because

816
00:31:13,510 --> 00:31:11,679
they've created artificial islands and

817
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:13,520
things like that but much of it's

818
00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:14,720
underwater

819
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:17,679
and the stones there weigh um up to 80

820
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:18,399
tons

821
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:20,320
is the largest ones

822
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,830
the people there

823
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:27,360
are sad to have

824
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,549
how did they think they got him out

825
00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:34,880
there from the from the korey site did

826
00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:37,120
with outrigger canoes or something i

827
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:38,559
mean what do what do conventional

828
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:40,720
archaeologists uh what's their

829
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:42,880
explanation i mean how how do they

830
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:44,640
explain this well that is that is their

831
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:46,240
explanation that they brought them on

832
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:48,320
outrigger canoes and things

833
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:49,440
and

834
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:53,200
where

835
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:57,600
site is uh entire mountains would be

836
00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:59,200
dismantled um

837
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:01,679
it's it's you know it's prismatic basalt

838
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:02,880
that's

839
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:05,039
adnan nadal and it's

840
00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:06,559
and so it

841
00:32:11,870 --> 00:32:08,320
it's like um

842
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:11,880
the giants causeway in northern ireland

843
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:15,600
or other hardest stones known to

844
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:16,720
science

845
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:17,679
yeah and

846
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:20,240
and there's certain formations of basalt

847
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:22,080
that uh that

848
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:22,799
they

849
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:27,039
and really um

850
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:30,080
kind of bluffs and cliffs and the

851
00:32:35,370 --> 00:32:33,039
prismatic bath salts is there to to

852
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:35,380
separate if you can do that

853
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:37,440
[Music]

854
00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:41,509
i mean i mean there's there's a number

855
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:43,279
of places where you can see prismatic

856
00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:44,720
basalt

857
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:46,640
but namidol is one of the few places

858
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:49,600
where prismatic band salt has

859
00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:53,200
it and in in there it's in a huge amount

860
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:56,559
i mean it's 250 million tons of it it's

861
00:33:01,909 --> 00:32:59,039
separated into these

862
00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:01,919
various sizes of of

863
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:02,799
kind of

864
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:05,200
they look like eight-sided uh lincoln

865
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:07,200
logs or something only they're extremely

866
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:11,679
heavy and and hard vessels magnetic too

867
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,840
but they can't even there's so much of

868
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:15,200
the baseball there

869
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:18,880
that entire mountains would have been

870
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:19,919
uh

871
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:22,000
disassembled in order to create the

872
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:24,480
material and they don't know

873
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:27,679
where it came from um

874
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:29,360
it baffles the archaeologists too

875
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:31,200
there's so much

876
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:33,679
but wherever it came from it's

877
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:35,919
it's thought that it was then put into

878
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:38,080
outrigger canoes

879
00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:41,200
a 20 ton a 50 ton

880
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:43,039
giant block of battle

881
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:44,799
and then somehow

882
00:33:48,149 --> 00:33:46,159
floated

883
00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:48,159
around the island and then

884
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:50,000
dumped onto this coral reef and in some

885
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:51,039
cases

886
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,240
piled up into 30 40 food high

887
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:56,480
walls and things and and even why they

888
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:57,519
would do it

889
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:01,440
the natives say there that

890
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:04,240
the bath salt was flown through the air

891
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:06,880
and magically flown to the air and

892
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:09,040
two brothers uh

893
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:11,200
built the city they had a flying dragon

894
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:13,040
supposedly

895
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:15,200
and when you go there i mean it's

896
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:17,280
amazing um

897
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:18,960
the islanders

898
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:22,560
don't like even going to the city they

899
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:25,040
have a certain fear of it

900
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:28,079
and they believe that they'll die if

901
00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:30,079
they spend the night there there's

902
00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:31,839
lights that move around the city at

903
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:34,480
night probably because

904
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,919
of the

905
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:37,520
just the magnetic

906
00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:40,720
um presence of all the basalt

907
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:42,879
and it somehow creates

908
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:45,760
some kind of mysterious sort of

909
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:47,679
like

910
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:49,839
electric uh discharges or something yeah

911
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:52,480
something like that and just uh certain

912
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,040
atmospheric conditions

913
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:57,599
make lights move around uh through the

914
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:59,359
city this is what these people see at

915
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:01,040
night who well

916
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:03,200
this this particular site kind of brings

917
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,920
up

918
00:35:07,710 --> 00:35:06,000
what quite a number of people uh have

919
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asked on our forums at

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forum.paracast.com where our listeners

921
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get get to ask our guests questions and

922
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:13,680
there's a number of questions that they

923
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:14,880
kind of are

924
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,560
interested in finding out your thoughts

925
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:18,560
about the possibility of some sort of

926
00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:20,640
ancient human civilization

927
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:23,119
uh millions of years ago possibly even

928
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:25,119
that that may have existed that is not

929
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:27,839
acknowledged by by modern archaeology

930
00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:29,920
that may somehow be responsible for some

931
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:32,000
of these sites that were then inherited

932
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,480
by the current or you know

933
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:36,800
fairly recent residents of these areas

934
00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:38,240
do you think that there's a possibility

935
00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:40,640
that we may be seeing the

936
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,280
the vestiges of some prior

937
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:45,359
civilization that's now gone

938
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:46,800
i'll tell you what david let's hold that

939
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answer for a moment i just want to

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[Music]

1066
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:18,720
we have david hatcher childress

1067
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:20,960
who of course has written many books has

1068
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adventures unlimited press

1069
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,280
with gina and chris on the power cast

1070
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,359
and he was asked a long question based

1071
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:29,520
on several from our listeners about

1072
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:32,480
advanced civilizations on earth

1073
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:34,000
and maybe we're seeing the remnants of

1074
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:36,319
them in some of these artifacts david

1075
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:37,680
well right and i think that's a good

1076
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:38,480
point

1077
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:39,280
with

1078
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,400
many of these cities um or and ruins

1079
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:44,160
whatever they are uh

1080
00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:45,520
nam at all

1081
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:47,680
like you anako a lot of what's in peru

1082
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,599
and subscribe to the incas places like

1083
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:51,599
balbach even uh the wailing wall of

1084
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:52,880
jerusalem

1085
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:55,280
these ruins are in some cases they're so

1086
00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:56,560
huge

1087
00:42:01,589 --> 00:41:59,599
and so big and it's essentially a base

1088
00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:01,599
foundation such as at balbach where we

1089
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:02,400
have

1090
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:03,680
what are the

1091
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:05,680
the largest known

1092
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,359
uh quarried blocks uh weighing up to a

1093
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:11,040
thousand tons

1094
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:13,520
and even more with with some of the uh

1095
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:15,119
so-called unfinished

1096
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:18,240
blocks there and so when you have ruins

1097
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,960
like this uh and namadol

1098
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:22,800
totally fits into this

1099
00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:25,280
you have giant blocks of stone there

1100
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,119
they're weighing

1101
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:29,280
50 100

1102
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:30,960
thousand tons

1103
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:33,920
and they're stacked up and in two walls

1104
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:36,079
sometimes they're very carefully cut and

1105
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:37,359
placed

1106
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:40,079
um with named all they're actually

1107
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:42,319
the bath salt is

1108
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:44,319
is rougher and and it's more just you

1109
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:45,920
know giant blocks

1110
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,839
put up and they're they're not carefully

1111
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:50,000
cut in place

1112
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:50,960
but

1113
00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:52,160
when you have something like that it's

1114
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:53,680
going to last for a long time i mean

1115
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:56,480
it's virtually indestructible

1116
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:57,520
and

1117
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:00,319
as long as it's above water

1118
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:03,200
or in some place where people can

1119
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,319
actually live today and

1120
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:08,160
instead of on top of some remote

1121
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:10,400
mountain or something like that

1122
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:12,800
then it's going to remain there and and

1123
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:14,960
a wandering tribe

1124
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:17,520
thousands of years after this has been

1125
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:18,560
made

1126
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:20,560
can come in and and suddenly claim it

1127
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,400
for their own um

1128
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:24,319
in the case of the andes i mean that's

1129
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,560
really what's happened with places like

1130
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:28,560
machu picchu and and

1131
00:43:34,870 --> 00:43:31,839
kuzco and texas woman or yante combo

1132
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:34,880
people are literally living in ancient

1133
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:37,200
buildings that were already there

1134
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,520
and all they had to do was put a roof on

1135
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:43,440
many of these buildings and

1136
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,920
and reoccupy them because they're

1137
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:47,839
megalithic and they're virtually

1138
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:50,000
indestructible

1139
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:51,280
the spanish

1140
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:53,680
did try and rearrange some of the

1141
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,839
buildings they would put in new windows

1142
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:57,760
or doors or something and

1143
00:44:01,359 --> 00:44:06,150
of a more poor quality than the original

1144
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:06,829
but

1145
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:09,359
so because these buildings are

1146
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:11,200
essentially indestructible

1147
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:14,240
they're occupied and reoccupied

1148
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:15,040
over

1149
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:19,200
literally hundreds and thousands of

1150
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:20,240
years

1151
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:22,960
jerusalem is a good example what's

1152
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:25,440
what's at the base of the wailing wall

1153
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:26,240
and

1154
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:28,720
what was originally solomon's temple

1155
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:32,240
is also a a balbec type foundation of of

1156
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:33,760
huge

1157
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:36,800
uh what are called ashlars uh giant

1158
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:39,359
stone foundation blocks that are the

1159
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,000
size of a railway car or something and

1160
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:44,400
and they're like at balbeck they're

1161
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:46,880
weighing at some astonishing amount of

1162
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:49,520
weight something like 500 tons or

1163
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:50,480
something

1164
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:51,440
and so

1165
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:52,800
if you're the

1166
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,200
roaming israelites or

1167
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,599
or the incas or wherever you are

1168
00:45:02,870 --> 00:44:59,760
when you come along and you find

1169
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:02,880
what is essentially a giant wall that

1170
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:04,960
that's already there you can't even

1171
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:06,720
dismantle it yourself

1172
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,640
although in many cases that is what

1173
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,240
happens to ruins they're they're

1174
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:12,560
dismantled and used for building blocks

1175
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:13,520
themselves

1176
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:16,160
and the spanish did that so much in in

1177
00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:17,760
mexico and

1178
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:19,599
and south america where

1179
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:22,319
they would dismantle other pyramids and

1180
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:24,319
mine or aztec things and and then would

1181
00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:26,480
build other churches and things

1182
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:28,160
that's easier to do when you have

1183
00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:30,400
smaller blocks and or bricks or

1184
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:31,359
something

1185
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:32,800
and that's what happened to a lot of the

1186
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:35,760
ancient cities in india and and pakistan

1187
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,560
though

1188
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:38,319
in this valley cities which which are

1189
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:40,240
made out of fire bricks

1190
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:42,079
and they're very well made but yet you

1191
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:43,359
know they're

1192
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:45,359
they're not megalithic stones that are

1193
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:47,040
difficult to move

1194
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:49,040
even though these bricks were thousands

1195
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:50,640
of years old

1196
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:51,920
and in fact the indus valley

1197
00:45:56,550 --> 00:45:54,960
civilization is is known to go back to

1198
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:56,560
uh one thousand two thousand three

1199
00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:58,240
thousand bc

1200
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:01,440
and yet in the 1940s and 50s they were

1201
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:04,720
dismantling these cities to to build uh

1202
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:06,560
railway buildings and they were building

1203
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:08,160
the railway through pakistan at that

1204
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:10,720
time so they they use those bricks as

1205
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,160
ballast

1206
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:14,880
so we have this reuse of

1207
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:17,119
of ancient materials

1208
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:20,640
uh sometimes if it's possible uh ancient

1209
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:23,520
city is or structure is dismantled

1210
00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:25,520
but in other times it's because it's

1211
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:27,599
megalithic it can't be dismantled and

1212
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:29,200
even modern archaeologists couldn't take

1213
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:30,720
these things apart

1214
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:32,640
and now we want to preserve these things

1215
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:34,880
fortunately and so they become world

1216
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:37,280
heritage sites and things like that

1217
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:40,319
but they're used and reused and that

1218
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:43,040
causes a problem for archaeologists too

1219
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:45,920
because archaeologists make all kinds of

1220
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:48,720
kind of dumb basic assumptions like

1221
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:51,359
oh well uh you know um

1222
00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:54,880
if we go into this giant wall if we find

1223
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:57,040
a piece of wood to date

1224
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:58,480
that will tell us when this wall was

1225
00:47:02,790 --> 00:46:59,680
built

1226
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:02,800
and and then they go and they they find

1227
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,400
somewhere in a little

1228
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:06,960
niche and cubby hole in the wall they

1229
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:09,680
they find a bone or they find a piece of

1230
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:10,720
wood and

1231
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:12,960
and that's something that can be uh

1232
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:14,319
carbonated

1233
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:17,440
and they'll say oh well this piece of

1234
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:20,000
wood is 500 years old

1235
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:21,359
and so

1236
00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:23,200
archaeologists and their

1237
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,119
infinite wisdom will say that's when

1238
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:27,760
this wall was built 500 years ago

1239
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:29,280
because that's the date of this piece of

1240
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:30,720
wood

1241
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:31,680
but

1242
00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:33,760
you know that's just an assumption

1243
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:35,119
that piece of wood

1244
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:36,640
could have been placed there 500 years

1245
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:38,240
ago by somebody who didn't build that

1246
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:39,040
wall

1247
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:41,920
somebody who camped there for 20 years

1248
00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:44,720
and uh used to put all their bones and

1249
00:47:50,309 --> 00:47:47,839
and or even burials inside these walls

1250
00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:50,319
so the assumption that that

1251
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:51,839
the person who put that piece of wood

1252
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:54,160
inside this wall is the builder

1253
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:55,119
is

1254
00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:58,400
quite honestly probably completely wrong

1255
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:00,880
okay so let me just ask you here so

1256
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:03,680
we kind of foreclose this all right so

1257
00:48:08,550 --> 00:48:05,839
if taking the wood and carpentating it

1258
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:08,560
is wrong what should they be checking to

1259
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:11,040
check the age of the structure well

1260
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:11,920
right

1261
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:13,920
it's it's not that easy to date this

1262
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:16,319
structure if the structure itself has

1263
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:18,160
dates on it then

1264
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:21,599
that would be fine but you cannot date

1265
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:23,680
just a piece of a rock

1266
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:25,520
uh even as it's been squared and

1267
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:28,319
quarried and and placed there we don't

1268
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:29,760
have any

1269
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:33,359
uh dating technique that uh at present

1270
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:35,760
that will tell us when that rock

1271
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:37,920
was was quarried

1272
00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:40,240
it's interesting that in that whole

1273
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:42,880
concept because

1274
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:46,000
graham hancock mentions in his book

1275
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:48,160
just as a footnote uh and fingerprints

1276
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:49,599
of the gods

1277
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:52,720
how the university of wales back in the

1278
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:54,880
late 1980s

1279
00:49:01,910 --> 00:48:58,240
had tried to devise a

1280
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:01,920
technique uh was called chlorine 23.

1281
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:04,559
that would show when

1282
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:07,520
rock was quarried and cut

1283
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:11,520
from uh from say a a mountain quarry

1284
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:14,000
and removed

1285
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:16,880
and they thought that they had this as a

1286
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:19,040
accurate dating technique but they went

1287
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:21,040
then to stonehenge

1288
00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:23,040
to use this dating technique on

1289
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:24,400
stonehenge

1290
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,000
and the

1291
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:28,559
the date that they came up with

1292
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:31,040
for the removal of the rock from the

1293
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:35,359
quarry was 20 000 years before present

1294
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:37,440
and archaeologists wouldn't accept that

1295
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:38,640
and so

1296
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:39,839
at that point

1297
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:42,000
they said well this is just not accurate

1298
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:44,480
this is a wrong dating technique

1299
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:45,599
because

1300
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,079
estonians can't be that old

1301
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:50,160
yeah but in light of goblecky tepe and

1302
00:49:55,310 --> 00:49:52,319
in other sites uh

1303
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:55,320
that's within within the realm of reason

1304
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:56,480
[Music]

1305
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,480
well that's right but it but that would

1306
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:00,240
have made stonehenge still ten thousand

1307
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:02,640
years older than go back with happy

1308
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:05,280
at a site like beckley teppy and go back

1309
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:09,280
i've been there it it quebec was um

1310
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,319
was a buried fight uh it was

1311
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:14,880
the builders of it or or somebody later

1312
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:16,480
not necessarily the builders

1313
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:19,200
decided to actually bury it and and they

1314
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:21,599
created this what is kind of artificial

1315
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:23,599
hill it was already probably

1316
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:25,119
built up on top of hill and then they

1317
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:28,319
buried it but when as they uncovered it

1318
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:30,319
today and it's german and turkish

1319
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:33,040
archaeologists really doing it

1320
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:34,559
because they unburied it you know they

1321
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:36,160
were able to come again they couldn't

1322
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:38,720
date the rock itself

1323
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,359
and are and that but they

1324
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:43,680
did come up with um

1325
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:46,240
dateable objects as pottery

1326
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:49,040
can also be tested as a with a different

1327
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:50,559
technique

1328
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:54,480
um but yeah so they found those dates

1329
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:56,160
uh and

1330
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:57,920
and that was like carbon dating type

1331
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,880
stuff

1332
00:51:07,750 --> 00:50:59,760
and

1333
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:07,760
um

1334
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:09,760
even though they don't interpret

1335
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:11,359
the site you know

1336
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:13,520
the way i would

1337
00:51:15,970 --> 00:51:15,040
they're saying they're a go beckley

1338
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:15,980
teppy that

1339
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,119
[Music]

1340
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:19,520
that this is the earliest site uh they

1341
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:22,480
don't think there are earlier um

1342
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:24,720
megalithic sites than that although no

1343
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,240
doubt there are

1344
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:28,640
let's go into more of this detail in our

1345
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:30,480
next segment with david hatcher

1346
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:33,119
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welcome back to the paracast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio

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00:54:08,270 --> 00:54:04,960
and now

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00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:08,280
here's gene steinberg

1403
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:13,990
our guest is david hatcher childress

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00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:15,440
prolific author

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00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:16,800
of course the

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00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:19,040
force behind adventures unlimited press

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00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:20,480
we're talking about

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00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:22,800
ancient artifacts or more ancient

1409
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,559
artifacts and you were talking by the

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00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:26,240
way and it's getting to be a long answer

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00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:26,960
but

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00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:29,359
9000 bc

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00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:32,240
how far back can we trace any of these

1414
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:33,440
artifacts

1415
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:35,119
well i think that

1416
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:36,640
going back around

1417
00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:40,319
10 thousand bc is is a pretty good

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00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:44,559
day to to go for uh they don't tend to

1419
00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:45,839
date

1420
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:48,160
stone structures much much older than

1421
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:49,359
that

1422
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:51,520
there are some uh

1423
00:54:54,790 --> 00:54:53,920
buildings that were found in in poland

1424
00:55:07,829 --> 00:54:54,800
and

1425
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:07,839
they're the oldest structures that are

1426
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:08,720
known

1427
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,480
the whole idea of how old humans are

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00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:14,000
how long

1429
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:15,680
humans have been

1430
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:18,000
making buildings and building roads and

1431
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:19,599
bridges and

1432
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:21,839
boats and port cities and

1433
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:24,000
and things and going places

1434
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:26,400
it's a controversial subject and

1435
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,440
basically again with as you described me

1436
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:31,920
earlier as a diffusionist

1437
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,040
the two main schools of of anthropology

1438
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:37,440
are are isolationism

1439
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:39,920
versus diffusionism and

1440
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:42,640
isolationists are really the ones

1441
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:44,000
in charge of our

1442
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:46,240
universities and educational system in a

1443
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:47,760
sense right now

1444
00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:50,079
and they tend to argue that

1445
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:52,799
ancient man was isolated

1446
00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:55,280
he didn't really go places

1447
00:56:01,109 --> 00:55:59,280
oceans are are barriers not not highways

1448
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:01,119
people just can't get into boats and

1449
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:03,440
cross oceans and go places they

1450
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,000
they have to walk everywhere and even

1451
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,160
this whole out of africa

1452
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:10,400
theory is is only that

1453
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:12,400
they're they find ancient bones and

1454
00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:14,559
things in africa and that's all fine

1455
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:16,799
and then they they say well i mean

1456
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:18,720
everybody just had to you know got up

1457
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,960
and walked out of africa and went

1458
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:22,160
everywhere

1459
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:24,000
but a lot of that is assuming that the

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00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:25,760
the whole world

1461
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:28,480
looks exactly like it does today

1462
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:30,640
and that the continents uh look like

1463
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:33,200
they are the oceans are where they are

1464
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:35,040
what is underwater uh today is

1465
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:37,839
underwater van and what was what's dry

1466
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:40,319
land today it was dry land then

1467
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:42,480
geologists would normally tell you

1468
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:44,960
that's completely wrong and

1469
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:47,680
uh 10 000 years ago ocean levels were

1470
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:50,400
300 feet lower than they are today and

1471
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:51,680
that would make

1472
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:53,440
areas in like

1473
00:56:57,670 --> 00:56:56,559
just the central pacific or

1474
00:57:02,309 --> 00:56:57,680
central

1475
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:02,319
would it would turn small island groups

1476
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:04,240
into many continents and things like

1477
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:05,280
that

1478
00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:11,040
ancient man who came from some area

1479
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:13,200
that's under water right now

1480
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:14,400
um

1481
00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:16,880
in the pacific ocean or in the atlantic

1482
00:57:20,789 --> 00:57:19,040
or off africa or anywhere

1483
00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:20,799
i mean we don't really know what it was

1484
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:21,599
like

1485
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:24,799
50 000 years ago but we can

1486
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:27,359
pretty much guess that it wasn't like it

1487
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:29,920
was today climates were different

1488
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:31,760
there were giant animals running around

1489
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:35,200
then uh the whole end of the mile scene

1490
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,559
with these

1491
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:38,400
woolly rhinos and

1492
00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:46,390
yeah and they were all wiped out and uh

1493
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:49,280
i mean there's things that we just

1494
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:51,599
can't even wrap our heads around at the

1495
00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:54,000
end of the last ice age there were huge

1496
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:57,280
ice sheets right around chicago

1497
00:58:01,910 --> 00:58:00,319
they call it the the wisconsin

1498
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:01,920
glacial shield

1499
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,000
yet at that same time that there were

1500
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:06,160
huge glaciers around chicago

1501
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:08,720
there were giant herds of woolly

1502
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:10,720
mammoths and wooly rhinos and giant elk

1503
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:13,520
running around in siberia and

1504
00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:16,000
and alaska and there wasn't glaciers up

1505
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:16,960
there

1506
00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:20,640
i mean it it doesn't even make sense um

1507
00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:23,119
geologists can't really explain it how

1508
00:58:27,190 --> 00:58:25,520
is it that the north pole doesn't have

1509
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:27,200
all this ice but

1510
00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:31,280
the around chicago there is ice

1511
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:33,119
but how does that make sense

1512
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:35,359
and then all of these animals were wiped

1513
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:37,760
out in a huge tidal wave

1514
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:41,440
most of the uh ivory that was used in

1515
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:43,920
the in the late 1800s and

1516
00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:46,319
and early 1900s for piano keys and

1517
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:47,520
billiard balls and all that didn't come

1518
00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:49,440
from african elephants it came from

1519
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:53,359
piles of ivory in siberia and alaska

1520
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:56,640
where tidal waves some kind of

1521
00:59:02,870 --> 00:58:59,440
huge earth cataclysm had just

1522
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:02,880
wiped out these giant herds of animals

1523
00:59:06,870 --> 00:59:04,880
who were running around in northern

1524
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:06,880
alaska where there was no ice and had

1525
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:09,440
some different temperature

1526
00:59:14,789 --> 00:59:11,760
and destroyed them all and even today

1527
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:14,799
people they just they find giant piles

1528
00:59:19,109 --> 00:59:15,520
of

1529
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:19,119
huge mammoth tusks and things um

1530
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:22,000
so trying to figure out all this stuff

1531
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:23,599
who

1532
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:29,040
man is and how old he was

1533
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:31,359
we have to bring it back in my mind

1534
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:35,520
to 20 30 50 100 000 years in the past

1535
00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:37,920
and people who looked just like us

1536
00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:39,359
who were taller

1537
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:41,119
and had bigger brains were running

1538
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:44,720
around i mean they had all the

1539
00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:47,040
capabilities that we have of

1540
00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:48,960
intelligence and adventure and

1541
00:59:53,829 --> 00:59:50,559
inventiveness

1542
00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:53,839
of of using tools uh and and in fact

1543
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:55,280
they were actually stronger and bigger

1544
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:56,480
than we are

1545
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:57,920
yet

1546
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:00,880
according to uh anthropologists these

1547
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:02,880
guys didn't do anything i mean for a

1548
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:04,559
hundred thousand years they

1549
01:00:08,789 --> 01:00:05,359
they

1550
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:08,799
sat in their caves and uh uh

1551
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:11,680
ate their woolly mammoth uh

1552
01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:14,319
kebabs and stuff or mammoths too that's

1553
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:16,400
very good i understand mammoth stew is

1554
01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:18,720
really better especially if you put it

1555
01:00:22,630 --> 01:00:20,319
on a walk i guess there were no walks

1556
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:22,640
there now seriously speaking here the

1557
01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:24,400
thing i always wondered when we tried to

1558
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:25,920
interpret what happened thousands of

1559
01:00:30,069 --> 01:00:28,559
years ago we can't even agree what

1560
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:30,079
happened yesterday

1561
01:00:33,750 --> 01:00:32,000
you asked five different talking heads

1562
01:00:35,270 --> 01:00:33,760
on cable news

1563
01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:35,280
and you asked them to explain what

1564
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:37,359
happened yesterday and they can't get it

1565
01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:38,319
right

1566
01:00:41,829 --> 01:00:39,839
they have five different versions of the

1567
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:41,839
story so how are we going to know what

1568
01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:46,549
yeah sure

1569
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:50,960
exactly and it's all interpretation it's

1570
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:52,160
it's

1571
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:54,400
everything history is

1572
01:01:00,230 --> 01:00:56,720
is his story it's

1573
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:00,240
it's not her story it's not their story

1574
01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:03,760
it's it's his story or it's my story

1575
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:05,200
and history is

1576
01:01:10,630 --> 01:01:07,680
written by the winners of wars not by

1577
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:10,640
the losers of wars and

1578
01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:12,480
and and so much of

1579
01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:14,720
archaeology is just interpretation

1580
01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:16,880
you have to start with some kind of

1581
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:19,440
basic foundation an idea and

1582
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:21,920
unfortunately archaeologists often start

1583
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:25,200
with entirely the wrong concept right at

1584
01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:27,440
the very beginning and and that concept

1585
01:01:30,390 --> 01:01:28,960
is that

1586
01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:30,400
ancient people didn't do anything they

1587
01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:32,160
didn't go anywhere they didn't have any

1588
01:01:36,549 --> 01:01:34,319
tools they had very little knowledge of

1589
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:36,559
what they were doing and yet

1590
01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:39,920
they went to remote islands like namidol

1591
01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:40,720
uh

1592
01:01:46,549 --> 01:01:43,680
the island is called ponte actually

1593
01:01:50,150 --> 01:01:46,559
and uh they just uh for no real good

1594
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:50,160
reason just stacked up 250 million tons

1595
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:53,040
of bath salt into 100 artificial islands

1596
01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:53,920
and

1597
01:02:02,470 --> 01:01:59,280
with baffled boulders that are

1598
01:02:04,549 --> 01:02:02,480
uh 40 or 50 tons in them

1599
01:02:06,309 --> 01:02:04,559
and it

1600
01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:06,319
there's not a good explanation for it

1601
01:02:12,789 --> 01:02:10,160
and how it would even be done and then

1602
01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:12,799
in all of these sites there's the why

1603
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:15,119
the why and the how

1604
01:02:20,069 --> 01:02:17,760
why would you go to and again you're

1605
01:02:22,549 --> 01:02:20,079
supposedly some primitive

1606
01:02:24,789 --> 01:02:22,559
uh person with a you know carrying your

1607
01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:24,799
um your spear and

1608
01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:25,920
and

1609
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:28,640
you

1610
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:32,640
oh i'm gonna build this giant building

1611
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:33,440
and

1612
01:02:39,670 --> 01:02:38,319
blocks of granite or bath salts or

1613
01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:39,680
whatever and i'll

1614
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:42,480
i'll haul them here and cut them up and

1615
01:02:45,750 --> 01:02:44,640
articulate them and all these fancy ways

1616
01:02:50,470 --> 01:02:45,760
and

1617
01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:50,480
like that

1618
01:02:54,870 --> 01:02:51,359
and

1619
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:54,880
mean even today modern tourists are just

1620
01:02:58,630 --> 01:02:56,880
looking at it with wonder going like wow

1621
01:03:00,630 --> 01:02:58,640
how did they do that david i want to ask

1622
01:03:02,230 --> 01:03:00,640
you more about this in our next segment

1623
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:02,240
and that is you know the common theory

1624
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:04,240
here that you take a bunch of primitive

1625
01:03:09,270 --> 01:03:06,799
people and you say let's build this

1626
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:09,280
structure it's going to take maybe 100

1627
01:03:13,349 --> 01:03:10,880
years that's okay we'll go through

1628
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:13,359
several generations of people each one

1629
01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:16,799
dedicated to the task of building the

1630
01:03:20,230 --> 01:03:18,640
structure perfectly

1631
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:20,240
it doesn't happen in one year it's not

1632
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:21,520
10 years

1633
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:24,160
it's 100 years maybe and i just wonder

1634
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:26,000
the logic about that

1635
01:03:31,589 --> 01:03:28,799
how do you discipline people to do that

1636
01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:31,599
over successive generations it doesn't

1637
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:33,520
make sense to me david hatcher childress

1638
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:35,280
is here trying to make sense of all

1639
01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:37,680
these archaeological mysteries with gene

1640
01:03:50,470 --> 01:03:47,670
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david hatcher childress the question i

1765
01:08:53,669 --> 01:08:51,279
asked was about

1766
01:08:55,349 --> 01:08:53,679
how they can possibly be expected to

1767
01:08:58,229 --> 01:08:55,359
engage in these

1768
01:08:59,910 --> 01:08:58,239
projects that span generations

1769
01:09:02,390 --> 01:08:59,920
all the discipline involved and if

1770
01:09:04,149 --> 01:09:02,400
they're trying to just survive

1771
01:09:05,669 --> 01:09:04,159
how could they get these people to do

1772
01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:05,679
such things

1773
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:08,239
yeah my point is is why would they do it

1774
01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:09,359
i mean

1775
01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:10,640
in many cases you're looking at

1776
01:09:16,149 --> 01:09:12,960
something that would would seem to be

1777
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:16,159
very difficult even with

1778
01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:20,400
heavy machinery and cranes and um all

1779
01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:22,000
the construction equipment that we have

1780
01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:22,960
today

1781
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:25,440
many of these structures uh especially

1782
01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:27,440
like once in egypt see the great pyramid

1783
01:09:30,789 --> 01:09:28,480
and stuff

1784
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:30,799
i mean they are

1785
01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:34,159
daunting construction tasks and you have

1786
01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:36,480
to wonder why would they even try and do

1787
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:37,440
this

1788
01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:39,359
and here's the here's the part that

1789
01:09:42,390 --> 01:09:41,279
archaeologists don't really ever ask

1790
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:42,400
themselves

1791
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:44,080
why would they do something which would

1792
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:46,640
seem to be done in the most difficult

1793
01:09:54,149 --> 01:09:47,440
way

1794
01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:54,159
building again out of bricks would and

1795
01:09:58,470 --> 01:09:56,719
smaller stones would would seem that's

1796
01:10:02,070 --> 01:09:58,480
how we would do it today

1797
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:02,080
uh we pour also liquid um stone and

1798
01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:03,520
concrete that's

1799
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:06,080
and that is a smart way to go

1800
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:08,080
but it would seem that these ancient

1801
01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:08,960
people

1802
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:11,360
are doing things not just in a in a kind

1803
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:13,440
of large scope like you're saying over

1804
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:15,280
100 years and all the discipline of the

1805
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:16,480
workers and stuff

1806
01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:18,159
but they're doing it they're doing it in

1807
01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:20,239
a way that they don't have to

1808
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:21,760
it and it would seem like they're doing

1809
01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:24,320
it in a very very hard way

1810
01:10:28,149 --> 01:10:25,600
moving

1811
01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:28,159
supposedly with brute force

1812
01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:31,760
huge huge stones they don't have to do

1813
01:10:36,550 --> 01:10:34,159
that uh why aren't they cutting these

1814
01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:36,560
stones into much more smaller and

1815
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:37,840
manageable

1816
01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:40,480
pieces to work with uh that's what we

1817
01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:43,360
would do today but they didn't do that

1818
01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:45,760
in ancient times and my point is that it

1819
01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:47,440
would seem to be

1820
01:10:50,229 --> 01:10:49,120
that what they were doing wasn't so

1821
01:10:53,669 --> 01:10:50,239
difficult

1822
01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:53,679
uh we see it as so hard i mean

1823
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:55,040
man they're they're dragging these

1824
01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:57,040
thousand ton blocks around

1825
01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:58,960
you know man how could how could they

1826
01:11:01,350 --> 01:11:00,159
even do it

1827
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:01,360
what are you suggesting that there's

1828
01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:03,280
some form of lost technology that was

1829
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:04,640
being utilized

1830
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:06,480
yeah exactly that's right yeah yeah

1831
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:09,520
that's what i'm saying they had to have

1832
01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:12,400
in my mind some kind of levitation some

1833
01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:13,920
anti-gravity

1834
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:16,320
it's not these thousands of people

1835
01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:19,679
hauling some giant block you know with

1836
01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:21,920
with all their ropes and stuff it

1837
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,679
which is how we imagine it

1838
01:11:28,229 --> 01:11:25,280
it's got to be

1839
01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:28,239
somehow it was not so hard for them um

1840
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:30,320
it wasn't a thousand people dragging

1841
01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:33,440
these blocks around it was more like uh

1842
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:36,080
um half a dozen of them with

1843
01:11:40,550 --> 01:11:37,360
certain

1844
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:40,560
high-tech devices uh whether it's some

1845
01:11:45,189 --> 01:11:42,320
kind of sound

1846
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:45,199
technique that that makes blocks of

1847
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:47,360
stone weightless i mean

1848
01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:49,280
i don't know exactly although i've

1849
01:11:52,229 --> 01:11:51,280
always been interested in that

1850
01:11:54,070 --> 01:11:52,239
and

1851
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:54,080
adventure's unlimited we do publish

1852
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:56,400
books on anti-gravity and

1853
01:12:00,470 --> 01:11:57,120
uh

1854
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:00,480
tesla technology special death rays

1855
01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:04,400
uh levitation techniques ufo propulsion

1856
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:06,239
all that kind of stuff

1857
01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:08,320
to me there's there's totally something

1858
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:09,440
to that

1859
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,719
nasa has published papers on acoustic

1860
01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:14,480
levitation of sound

1861
01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:17,440
there is supposedly film footage taken

1862
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:20,640
uh in the early 40s by a swedish

1863
01:12:25,270 --> 01:12:22,960
uh aircraft engineer who was in tibet

1864
01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:25,280
and he supposedly

1865
01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:27,840
in a book he wrote um which which was

1866
01:12:31,590 --> 01:12:29,760
never in english

1867
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:31,600
uh but but it's known to people and then

1868
01:12:38,950 --> 01:12:34,719
and i did discuss it in some of my books

1869
01:12:42,550 --> 01:12:38,960
he witnessed he claimed uh tibetans that

1870
01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:42,560
monks using horns and drums

1871
01:12:47,350 --> 01:12:44,320
uh levitating

1872
01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:47,360
blocks of stone up on top of a cliff to

1873
01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:49,679
the building of a monastery you're kind

1874
01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:52,080
of hedging your bets there my friend

1875
01:12:55,669 --> 01:12:54,159
when you say supposedly in everything

1876
01:12:57,910 --> 01:12:55,679
what's your opinion

1877
01:13:00,229 --> 01:12:57,920
well i i think that

1878
01:13:01,270 --> 01:13:00,239
i think it is real i'm

1879
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:01,280
when i say

1880
01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:02,880
yeah the the question is that he

1881
01:13:08,310 --> 01:13:06,000
supposedly took like 16 millimeter movie

1882
01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:08,320
film of this and he writes about it in

1883
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:11,280
his book which was published in sweden

1884
01:13:15,669 --> 01:13:12,880
but that movie film has never been

1885
01:13:17,189 --> 01:13:15,679
released and so in that way it's if the

1886
01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:17,199
story's true then it

1887
01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:18,800
suppressed

1888
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:20,159
so here we have

1889
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:22,480
suppressed um

1890
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:24,480
footage that that shows

1891
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:26,320
monks levitating and doing things that

1892
01:13:30,390 --> 01:13:29,120
we would think are impossible

1893
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:30,400
and things like that are there's

1894
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:31,600
something that i'm

1895
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:32,800
and that's maybe a whole another

1896
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:34,719
discussion but the whole thing of

1897
01:13:38,229 --> 01:13:37,199
archaeological suppression uh evidence

1898
01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:38,239
that

1899
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:42,000
is there

1900
01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:44,880
like the smithsonian suppressing things

1901
01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:46,400
i was shown a film

1902
01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:49,199
uh in in holland

1903
01:13:54,070 --> 01:13:52,000
that was taken in the early 50s

1904
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:54,080
and it's a dutch guy

1905
01:13:59,750 --> 01:13:57,280
who and he had appeared in and had been

1906
01:14:02,229 --> 01:13:59,760
in like ripley's believe it or not he's

1907
01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:02,239
he's not well known um and i had never

1908
01:14:05,590 --> 01:14:03,760
heard of him before

1909
01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:05,600
the film i was shown and it was about a

1910
01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:07,920
half hour film that was silent it was

1911
01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:11,440
taken in in switzerland in the early 50s

1912
01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:14,800
but this guy and he's a he's a thin uh

1913
01:14:19,510 --> 01:14:17,120
he was a dutch guy who claimed he had

1914
01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:19,520
all these yogic secrets and stuff

1915
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:22,000
it's in a laboratory setting

1916
01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:24,880
and he's standing there uh without a

1917
01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:27,360
shirt and just these pants on

1918
01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:31,760
and then these people in switzerland uh

1919
01:14:34,709 --> 01:14:33,760
they running them through with swords

1920
01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:34,719
and

1921
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:36,000
his

1922
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:37,120
swords

1923
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:38,000
are

1924
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:41,040
put through his chest and his stomach

1925
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:43,840
completely through several of them and i

1926
01:14:47,110 --> 01:14:45,600
mean it's astonishing to watch and he

1927
01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:47,120
does not bleed

1928
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:50,239
he does not um

1929
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:53,280
uh he's not he's in no pain or anything

1930
01:14:57,270 --> 01:14:55,199
uh he stands there they remove the

1931
01:14:58,229 --> 01:14:57,280
swords from him

1932
01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:58,239
and

1933
01:15:02,390 --> 01:14:59,440
uh

1934
01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:04,390
and although you can see where the sword

1935
01:15:08,830 --> 01:15:05,920
went in and out

1936
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:08,840
and i mean it's a modern

1937
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:11,360
medical miracle i mean you can't believe

1938
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:13,679
it when you're watching this

1939
01:15:22,709 --> 01:15:15,040
and

1940
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:22,719
does sells a book about this guy

1941
01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:26,400
and you can get a video of this too

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so

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this movie and i even today i'm

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i don't talk about it much

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but it it

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it's mind-blowing i mean you can't

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believe it's real uh and yet it

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it has to be i mean you're

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either it's a elaborate fake from the

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early 50s

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or it's or it's it's a real thing and no

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one can explain it

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no they're not levitating any stones or

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anything like this in the movie but this

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guy is doing things that would seem to

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be completely impossible

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the movie does exist yet it's not being

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shown on national geographic

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most people will probably never ever see

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this this movie

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yet you know it's it's real and hundreds

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thousands of people have watched it in

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holland i can tell you

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let's go into more details and a lot

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[Music]

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hi my name is richard dolan you're

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with gene and chris we have the second

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half of our episode with david hatcher

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childress exploring ancient mysteries

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the meaning of those ancient mysteries

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and how they might reflect

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what we know now and is it possible that

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maybe ancient aliens weren't here but an

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advanced civilization on earth that for

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some reason

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was destroyed in some worldwide

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catastrophe so let's look at that maybe

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there's an atlantis liberia some

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advanced civilization existing thousands

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and thousands of years ago david

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what would have happened would they have

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simply gone into space and left us alone

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did something here a change of climate

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conditions caused them to leave or

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destroy their civilization what well i

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think there's been a number of

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civilizations here on earth and

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they're destroyed through through wars

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or

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natural

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cataclysms calamities um it's the story

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of atlantis that it was destroyed and

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some

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although there are two different

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versions of atlantis that

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destroyed themselves as through some war

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or whatever and

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01:22:21,750 --> 01:22:20,000
or that they were destroyed in in some

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cataclysm of the earth

2113
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and that's part of the whole

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01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:24,400
archaeological

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enigmas it's the geological

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convulsions that

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that occur occasionally and where we've

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published a number of books along the

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lines about poultice

2120
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:38,719
cataclysms of yours

2121
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of course coming up to 2012 there was

2122
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all these stories of

2123
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some kind of

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pole shift and cataclysm that somehow

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the mayans knew about and

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had ended their

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decided to end their calendar with some

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big giant

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cataclysm disaster which didn't come

2130
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and that's fine but the evidence is

2131
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there that

2132
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every few thousand years every 10 000

2133
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years or whatever

2134
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:07,199
the earth goes through

2135
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:09,040
big hiccups you have

2136
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what's called a allegedly a pole shift

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where the

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the

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slide uh

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as much as 180 degrees maybe

2141
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and that even areas that where the pole

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were are now like at the equator

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right and that would explain uh for

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instance the

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the instantaneous die-offs of uh

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megaphone and uh mastodons found uh with

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with plant matter in their mouths like

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they were literally flash uh frozen in

2149
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an instant

2150
01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:48,080
right exactly and uh and that's why

2151
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there would be glaciers

2152
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:52,560
in illinois and wisconsin but not

2153
01:23:56,950 --> 01:23:55,360
glaciers up in baffin island or

2154
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or alaska at that time because the north

2155
01:24:02,550 --> 01:23:58,719
pole was in a different place can

2156
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:02,560
geologists determine uh the exact uh

2157
01:24:06,390 --> 01:24:04,400
at least the location of the magnetic

2158
01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:06,400
poles at any particular given time in

2159
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:08,080
history i think there's there's been

2160
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supposedly what 65 or 66

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01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:11,520
uh

2162
01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:12,960
demonstrated

2163
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:15,040
examples of a magnetic pole shift but

2164
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:16,719
what you're talking about is is crustal

2165
01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:17,920
displacement

2166
01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:19,760
yeah that's right yeah

2167
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:21,840
yeah can't you determine that uh

2168
01:24:27,189 --> 01:24:23,520
scientifically and and

2169
01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:27,199
if so uh why doesn't uh you know well

2170
01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:28,400
you know i mean

2171
01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:30,480
again it's it's like what we're talking

2172
01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:33,440
about with the the experts and the

2173
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experts can't agree on things so

2174
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a lot of times the experts aren't really

2175
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the experts anyway they're out of their

2176
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:42,400
their field

2177
01:24:47,590 --> 01:24:45,280
today we have so much talk of of global

2178
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:47,600
warming and uh

2179
01:24:52,390 --> 01:24:50,080
we're responsible for some kind of

2180
01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:52,400
slow warming of the earth and

2181
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:54,159
uh sea levels are going to rise and

2182
01:24:58,070 --> 01:24:55,840
things like that and

2183
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:58,080
and that's all fine there's and i think

2184
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:00,960
it's it's hard to dispute that

2185
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:03,520
factories and and mankind are having

2186
01:25:09,030 --> 01:25:06,800
some effect on on weather and and the

2187
01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:09,040
earth is warming a little bit

2188
01:25:12,629 --> 01:25:11,040
you'd be surprised

2189
01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:12,639
there's quite a few people on our forums

2190
01:25:19,990 --> 01:25:13,440
that

2191
01:25:21,830 --> 01:25:20,000
and it is and then and look there's a

2192
01:25:23,590 --> 01:25:21,840
lot of stuff to global warming and

2193
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:23,600
climate change that are never mentioned

2194
01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:26,320
and that's kind of my point uh is that

2195
01:25:30,310 --> 01:25:28,000
well

2196
01:25:33,189 --> 01:25:30,320
so-called experts are are talking about

2197
01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:33,199
how we're causing ocean levels to what

2198
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:35,920
rise and we're causing this global

2199
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:37,040
warming

2200
01:25:39,669 --> 01:25:37,920
yet

2201
01:25:42,310 --> 01:25:39,679
there were you know global warming and

2202
01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:42,320
cooling and and weather change and

2203
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:44,000
climate change it's been going on for a

2204
01:25:49,910 --> 01:25:47,440
hundred thousand years and it is severe

2205
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:49,920
droughts come and go huge

2206
01:25:52,629 --> 01:25:51,760
they think the mayans were wiped out uh

2207
01:25:54,790 --> 01:25:52,639
then

2208
01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:54,800
through some because of a extended

2209
01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:57,360
drought that that occurred there were

2210
01:26:00,229 --> 01:25:58,239
times

2211
01:26:02,070 --> 01:26:00,239
in the just like a thousand years ago

2212
01:26:04,709 --> 01:26:02,080
when the ice

2213
01:26:07,189 --> 01:26:04,719
above canada was was minimal and

2214
01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:07,199
allegedly vikings and other people could

2215
01:26:12,470 --> 01:26:10,320
make that northern passage very easily

2216
01:26:15,430 --> 01:26:12,480
but now there's there's a lot of ice

2217
01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:15,440
that appears but so what caused all that

2218
01:26:20,550 --> 01:26:16,400
i mean

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01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:20,560
is mankind the cause of of all climatic

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01:26:24,470 --> 01:26:21,760
change

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01:26:26,629 --> 01:26:24,480
certainly not i mean it couldn't be

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01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:26,639
and in fact climate change is

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01:26:33,430 --> 01:26:29,280
you know it's severe in the past and to

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01:26:35,030 --> 01:26:33,440
ascribe it all to mankind is is crazy

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01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:35,040
and so that's what i'm

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01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:36,960
you know wow

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01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:39,679
wow we might say that yeah they're

2228
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:42,239
over time there is some man-made climate

2229
01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:44,480
change and global warming

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01:26:49,510 --> 01:26:46,800
but on the larger scheme of things it

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01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:49,520
can't be it's it's nothing compared to

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01:26:53,510 --> 01:26:51,440
what mother nature does

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01:26:56,790 --> 01:26:53,520
and the kind of climate change that

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01:26:59,270 --> 01:26:56,800
mother nature is is able to create

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01:27:01,510 --> 01:26:59,280
whether it's an el nino thing or

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01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:01,520
uh i mean we can't explain why there's

2237
01:27:06,229 --> 01:27:04,400
so much ice in antarctica and where and

2238
01:27:08,070 --> 01:27:06,239
why it melts sometimes

2239
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:08,080
yeah one of the best the earth obviously

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01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:09,440
has some sort of a

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01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:10,560
internal

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01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:13,120
uh thermostat which uh heats up when it

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01:27:17,189 --> 01:27:15,280
needs to and and uh and cools off when

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01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:17,199
it needs to i mean that would be right

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01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:20,000
and look all it takes is a few volcanoes

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01:27:24,550 --> 01:27:21,920
in indonesia in the philippines or

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01:27:27,430 --> 01:27:24,560
anywhere to go off and we'll have global

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01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:27,440
cooling on a huge scale i mean we won't

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01:27:33,189 --> 01:27:28,800
have to worry about global warming at

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01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:33,199
all uh they called uh 1816 i think was

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01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:34,800
called the year without a summer and it

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01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:36,239
was because these volcanoes in the

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01:27:41,350 --> 01:27:38,000
philippines had gone off

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01:27:43,510 --> 01:27:41,360
and uh that year the whole earth cooled

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01:27:44,950 --> 01:27:43,520
and uh

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01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:44,960
in north america they hardly even had a

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01:27:47,990 --> 01:27:46,800
summer that year

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01:27:50,870 --> 01:27:48,000
and you know it has nothing to do with

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01:27:52,950 --> 01:27:50,880
mankind or global warming and so

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01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:52,960
my real point is that you're going to

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01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:54,000
sit there

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01:27:58,229 --> 01:27:55,920
and watch tv

2263
01:28:00,550 --> 01:27:58,239
and they're going to show you all this

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01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:00,560
evidence and these experts will come on

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01:28:04,629 --> 01:28:03,440
and tell you this and tell you that and

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01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:04,639
and

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01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:09,040
that really matters like oh well you

2268
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:11,120
know the earth goes through warming and

2269
01:28:14,470 --> 01:28:12,880
cooling periods all the time and there's

2270
01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:14,480
nothing we can do about it

2271
01:28:20,149 --> 01:28:16,320
they don't tell you that part

2272
01:28:21,669 --> 01:28:20,159
uh so it's all selective what we do

2273
01:28:23,990 --> 01:28:21,679
and this goes to everything in

2274
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:24,000
archaeology the pole shifts i mean

2275
01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:27,679
they've got experts to explain

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01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:28,560
uh

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01:28:32,149 --> 01:28:29,840
and

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01:28:35,590 --> 01:28:32,159
from conspiracy angle whether it's the

2279
01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:35,600
jfk assassination or or some other

2280
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:37,600
political assassination or

2281
01:28:43,030 --> 01:28:40,880
or even something like 911 or whatever

2282
01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:43,040
and and buildings like building seven at

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01:28:47,669 --> 01:28:45,280
nine and in that was never hit by an

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01:28:50,310 --> 01:28:47,679
airplane but it also collapsed they have

2285
01:28:52,390 --> 01:28:50,320
to explain all that somehow and they do

2286
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,400
they get experts and sometimes they'll

2287
01:28:56,390 --> 01:28:54,480
just take years to do it but they'll

2288
01:28:58,629 --> 01:28:56,400
eventually reach release on paper and

2289
01:29:01,510 --> 01:28:58,639
they'll say yeah this is how it happened

2290
01:29:03,910 --> 01:29:01,520
and popular science and all the news

2291
01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:03,920
guys will jump on it they'll say yeah

2292
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:05,360
now they've explained this and we have

2293
01:29:07,510 --> 01:29:06,320
an answer

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01:29:10,070 --> 01:29:07,520
and uh

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01:29:11,110 --> 01:29:10,080
everything's you know good case closed

2296
01:29:13,430 --> 01:29:11,120
kind of thing

2297
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:13,440
well uh we're opening up a big can of

2298
01:29:17,189 --> 01:29:15,280
worms with world trade center number

2299
01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:17,199
seven there uh mr children's right well

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01:29:20,790 --> 01:29:18,800
all that kind of stuff and

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01:29:22,870 --> 01:29:20,800
i'm not trying to uh

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01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:22,880
drama on any kind of a necessary

2303
01:29:27,110 --> 01:29:25,440
conspiracy bandwagon either way

2304
01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:27,120
but my point is that

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01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:30,159
people can explain anything and uh and

2306
01:29:33,270 --> 01:29:31,760
while some we're talking about

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01:29:34,229 --> 01:29:33,280
cataclysmic poll shifts and things like

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01:29:36,310 --> 01:29:34,239
that

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01:29:38,870 --> 01:29:36,320
but yeah there'll be

2310
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:38,880
some geologists who will say yeah we you

2311
01:29:42,390 --> 01:29:40,880
know there's something to all that but

2312
01:29:44,870 --> 01:29:42,400
they'll get their other experts who say

2313
01:29:46,709 --> 01:29:44,880
oh no that that never happens and

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01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:46,719
or earth here's what most geologists

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01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:49,120
want to tell you and it's what insurance

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01:29:52,550 --> 01:29:50,480
companies would probably rather you

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01:29:54,709 --> 01:29:52,560
believe and that is that changes in the

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01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:54,719
earth and the climate and geological

2319
01:29:59,430 --> 01:29:56,880
change is painfully slow

2320
01:30:02,550 --> 01:29:59,440
it doesn't happen rapidly uh

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01:30:04,070 --> 01:30:02,560
with giant earthquakes and and tsunamis

2322
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:04,080
washing over continents that's not what

2323
01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:07,199
happens no or changes are slow and and

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01:30:11,910 --> 01:30:08,639
uh you know

2325
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:11,920
occasionally a volcano goes off

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01:30:15,910 --> 01:30:14,000
change yeah you know and we don't have

2327
01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:15,920
to really worry about it and and in fact

2328
01:30:19,750 --> 01:30:17,440
what we really have to worry about is

2329
01:30:22,229 --> 01:30:19,760
over hundreds of years the earth the

2330
01:30:23,910 --> 01:30:22,239
ocean levels are gonna rise and some

2331
01:30:25,830 --> 01:30:23,920
little alcohols are gonna you know be

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01:30:29,910 --> 01:30:25,840
underwater or something like that

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let's have a kind and gentle break

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david hatcher childress is here with

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we have david hatcher childress here

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this week

2442
01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:14,480
talking about ancient mysteries climate

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01:35:17,270 --> 01:35:15,920
change which of course is very

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01:35:19,189 --> 01:35:17,280
contentious

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01:35:21,350 --> 01:35:19,199
as you can see and i don't know if we

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01:35:23,910 --> 01:35:21,360
can pursue that much further chris there

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01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:23,920
were a lot of questions in our forums

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and maybe we should get to some of them

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but i want to ask you one thing which is

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also contentious

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01:35:34,310 --> 01:35:31,840
and that is there occasionally get

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criticisms on some of those books

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01:35:38,790 --> 01:35:36,960
that maybe the editing could be tighter

2454
01:35:41,110 --> 01:35:38,800
the grammar and spelling

2455
01:35:43,270 --> 01:35:41,120
so what do you have to say about that

2456
01:35:45,430 --> 01:35:43,280
well i'm sure they could be yeah when i

2457
01:35:47,110 --> 01:35:45,440
read other books you know i noticed

2458
01:35:48,950 --> 01:35:47,120
grammar and spelling and

2459
01:35:51,189 --> 01:35:48,960
typos and things so you know i always

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01:35:53,030 --> 01:35:51,199
think that you know you could improve on

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01:35:55,350 --> 01:35:53,040
probably just better than you do in my

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01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:55,360
mind no matter what you do with as a

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01:35:59,110 --> 01:35:56,960
book publisher

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01:36:01,430 --> 01:35:59,120
errors are going to get in there

2465
01:36:03,590 --> 01:36:01,440
yeah i think so and um

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01:36:05,990 --> 01:36:03,600
i read all kinds of books from

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mainstream publishers and

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and books that you know have been you

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know heavily edited and and editors have

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01:36:13,590 --> 01:36:11,520
paid a lot of money to edit them and

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01:36:14,550 --> 01:36:13,600
then you still see mistakes and titles

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01:36:17,030 --> 01:36:14,560
in them

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01:36:18,790 --> 01:36:17,040
because i'm a publisher i i i notice

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01:36:20,070 --> 01:36:18,800
them and pick them out

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01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:20,080
and it's always a little satisfying when

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01:36:23,669 --> 01:36:21,760
you see some you know simon schuster

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01:36:25,669 --> 01:36:23,679
book that's got typos or something yet

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01:36:27,590 --> 01:36:25,679
so

2479
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:27,600
but those guys you know major publishers

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and it's

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01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:29,600
more and more difficult to be a

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01:36:33,990 --> 01:36:31,440
publisher these days i think

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01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:34,000
major publishers are uh going under

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they're

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difficult to make money bookstores are

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fewer and far between

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and paying

2488
01:36:45,109 --> 01:36:43,600
editors and of

2489
01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:45,119
other people to

2490
01:36:48,550 --> 01:36:47,520
you know take two years to bring a book

2491
01:36:51,109 --> 01:36:48,560
out

2492
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:51,119
books will always be around for sure

2493
01:36:55,030 --> 01:36:52,560
and they'll be

2494
01:36:57,430 --> 01:36:55,040
best sellers and blockbusters and major

2495
01:36:58,629 --> 01:36:57,440
publishers the whole publishing industry

2496
01:37:00,629 --> 01:36:58,639
is changing

2497
01:37:02,629 --> 01:37:00,639
and more and more we're seeing really

2498
01:37:06,709 --> 01:37:02,639
self-published books and

2499
01:37:08,629 --> 01:37:06,719
e-books and things like that um

2500
01:37:10,229 --> 01:37:08,639
i think there's actually there's like

2501
01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:10,239
magazines too there's actually more

2502
01:37:13,430 --> 01:37:12,400
magazines and things

2503
01:37:15,830 --> 01:37:13,440
and it's

2504
01:37:18,070 --> 01:37:15,840
to me it's great everybody

2505
01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:18,080
can suddenly be a publisher whether

2506
01:37:22,229 --> 01:37:20,880
20 years ago it was you couldn't really

2507
01:37:24,629 --> 01:37:22,239
publish your own book or something like

2508
01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:24,639
that very easily and get it out there

2509
01:37:27,590 --> 01:37:26,480
but today you can and i in my mind

2510
01:37:29,109 --> 01:37:27,600
that's a good thing

2511
01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:29,119
but do you think in general with the

2512
01:37:34,629 --> 01:37:31,679
disappearance of so many print versions

2513
01:37:37,109 --> 01:37:34,639
of magazines for example that maybe to

2514
01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:37,119
some degree print is dead or is it

2515
01:37:42,229 --> 01:37:39,440
always true we need printed books even

2516
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:42,239
captain kirk in the movie star trek to

2517
01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:43,679
wrath of khan

2518
01:37:48,629 --> 01:37:45,600
he's given a copy of a book from the

2519
01:37:50,629 --> 01:37:48,639
19th century as a birthday present by dr

2520
01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:50,639
mccoy and you think

2521
01:37:53,590 --> 01:37:52,000
how quaint

2522
01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:53,600
they don't have books in the 23rd

2523
01:37:57,990 --> 01:37:56,400
century but they're still treasured

2524
01:37:59,109 --> 01:37:58,000
well right and i you know i think that

2525
01:38:03,109 --> 01:37:59,119
the

2526
01:38:05,830 --> 01:38:03,119
print books will always be um

2527
01:38:08,790 --> 01:38:05,840
people's and i know i'm one of them i

2528
01:38:11,830 --> 01:38:08,800
i buy my books as i want

2529
01:38:13,750 --> 01:38:11,840
an actual printed copy and uh

2530
01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:13,760
don't really like carrying around a

2531
01:38:22,149 --> 01:38:19,669
when i can hear the the page turn and a

2532
01:38:24,149 --> 01:38:22,159
little uh scent uh

2533
01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:24,159
you know mechanism shoots a little puff

2534
01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:25,840
of newsprint

2535
01:38:30,149 --> 01:38:28,080
uh yeah i like to put little post-it

2536
01:38:32,229 --> 01:38:30,159
notes on pages too so it's hard to do

2537
01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:32,239
that on your computer so

2538
01:38:35,990 --> 01:38:34,000
i would like to get to some of our

2539
01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:36,000
questions david of course uh

2540
01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:38,800
you are controversial um having

2541
01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:40,239
been for now

2542
01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:42,239
quite a number of years being one of the

2543
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:43,679
most visible people on the ancient

2544
01:38:47,350 --> 01:38:45,360
aliens program there's a number of

2545
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:47,360
questions about ancient aliens

2546
01:38:52,390 --> 01:38:49,360
and one of them comes from our uh

2547
01:38:54,390 --> 01:38:52,400
listener chris johnson who's been a

2548
01:38:55,990 --> 01:38:54,400
form member now for a couple years he

2549
01:38:57,910 --> 01:38:56,000
doesn't post very often but you brought

2550
01:38:59,910 --> 01:38:57,920
him out of the out of the lurking closet

2551
01:39:01,830 --> 01:38:59,920
here and he's wondering what your

2552
01:39:03,109 --> 01:39:01,840
favorite episodes of ancient aliens are

2553
01:39:05,910 --> 01:39:03,119
and why

2554
01:39:07,750 --> 01:39:05,920
and if you had to recommend one episode

2555
01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:07,760
of the series to a skeptic to make the

2556
01:39:12,070 --> 01:39:09,360
case for ancient aliens which one would

2557
01:39:15,669 --> 01:39:12,080
it be

2558
01:39:18,470 --> 01:39:15,679
i suppose my two favorite episodes are

2559
01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:18,480
are really the one where um

2560
01:39:24,229 --> 01:39:21,440
uh they go to chipumapunku

2561
01:39:25,990 --> 01:39:24,239
tiwanako and in bolivia and and i'm in

2562
01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:26,000
that episode

2563
01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:29,760
and also uh another one where uh

2564
01:39:35,270 --> 01:39:32,880
they go to karnak in in france and i'm

2565
01:39:36,709 --> 01:39:35,280
in that episode too

2566
01:39:39,189 --> 01:39:36,719
both of those episodes are pretty good i

2567
01:39:44,149 --> 01:39:39,199
think and

2568
01:39:47,750 --> 01:39:45,750
you you can really see

2569
01:39:50,070 --> 01:39:47,760
uh in both of us i mean you're seeing

2570
01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:50,080
the giant stone structures um

2571
01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:52,880
at pumapunku and tiwanaku they're

2572
01:39:58,709 --> 01:39:55,920
the stones are very um

2573
01:40:00,149 --> 01:39:58,719
well articulated and cut

2574
01:40:01,669 --> 01:40:00,159
and of course in the episode we're

2575
01:40:04,709 --> 01:40:01,679
speculating that

2576
01:40:07,750 --> 01:40:04,719
they're using power tools and and even

2577
01:40:09,910 --> 01:40:07,760
that they're using like cad programs to

2578
01:40:10,950 --> 01:40:09,920
create these h blogs and things like

2579
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:10,960
that

2580
01:40:15,830 --> 01:40:13,920
you know i mean in

2581
01:40:16,709 --> 01:40:15,840
in that episode and the karnak episode

2582
01:40:18,149 --> 01:40:16,719
too

2583
01:40:20,629 --> 01:40:18,159
what you see is what you get i mean

2584
01:40:22,790 --> 01:40:20,639
we're we're you're standing there you're

2585
01:40:24,310 --> 01:40:22,800
looking at the things or of course we're

2586
01:40:26,149 --> 01:40:24,320
talking about it and

2587
01:40:28,390 --> 01:40:26,159
showing the anomalies

2588
01:40:30,470 --> 01:40:28,400
but

2589
01:40:32,470 --> 01:40:30,480
and in the case of karnak we have all

2590
01:40:34,390 --> 01:40:32,480
these giant stones

2591
01:40:35,109 --> 01:40:34,400
rows of them

2592
01:40:38,790 --> 01:40:35,119
and

2593
01:40:41,990 --> 01:40:38,800
with karnak mainstream archaeologists i

2594
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:42,000
mean they have no explanation um

2595
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:43,600
and we talk about it in that episode

2596
01:40:48,149 --> 01:40:45,520
there's they have there's they have no

2597
01:40:50,950 --> 01:40:48,159
explanation at all they can't explain it

2598
01:40:52,790 --> 01:40:50,960
they don't know why anyone would have

2599
01:40:55,030 --> 01:40:52,800
done this they don't know what it's for

2600
01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:55,040
they don't know who did it

2601
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:55,920
uh

2602
01:41:02,470 --> 01:40:57,440
i mean there's

2603
01:41:07,189 --> 01:41:04,790
blocks of stone that are i mean yeah

2604
01:41:08,709 --> 01:41:07,199
they're they're they're wearing 100 tons

2605
01:41:10,229 --> 01:41:08,719
even 200 tons

2606
01:41:12,550 --> 01:41:10,239
and why

2607
01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:12,560
why they would have done this put it up

2608
01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:13,920
i mean they've gone through a lot of

2609
01:41:15,910 --> 01:41:15,040
effort

2610
01:41:18,790 --> 01:41:15,920
but

2611
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:18,800
archaeologists when i was there i was

2612
01:41:21,990 --> 01:41:20,800
talking to the french archaeologist of

2613
01:41:24,709 --> 01:41:22,000
the site

2614
01:41:26,550 --> 01:41:24,719
and it was a woman and i asked her

2615
01:41:28,390 --> 01:41:26,560
what their explanation was

2616
01:41:29,910 --> 01:41:28,400
anyway just right before we started

2617
01:41:32,070 --> 01:41:29,920
filming the episode

2618
01:41:35,669 --> 01:41:32,080
and she said well we have none we have

2619
01:41:36,709 --> 01:41:35,679
we don't know we cannot explain it

2620
01:41:37,669 --> 01:41:36,719
so

2621
01:41:41,109 --> 01:41:37,679
anyway

2622
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:41,119
to me those are both good episodes and

2623
01:41:44,310 --> 01:41:43,040
what skeptics really

2624
01:41:45,510 --> 01:41:44,320
and to me there's nothing wrong with

2625
01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:45,520
being a skeptic

2626
01:41:50,229 --> 01:41:47,840
what the skeptics do need

2627
01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:50,239
i think to focus on when they when they

2628
01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:52,080
see some of these episodes

2629
01:41:57,750 --> 01:41:55,360
is it's just to simply realize that

2630
01:42:00,390 --> 01:41:57,760
archaeologists don't actually have the

2631
01:42:03,189 --> 01:42:00,400
answers for all for these things some

2632
01:42:06,070 --> 01:42:03,199
things are just utterly a mystery of the

2633
01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:06,080
who the how the what than the when

2634
01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:08,000
of doing things um

2635
01:42:13,270 --> 01:42:11,520
and the ancient aliens show or as or me

2636
01:42:14,709 --> 01:42:13,280
and my books or whatever

2637
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:14,719
i mean

2638
01:42:18,790 --> 01:42:16,560
we're we are trying to offer some kind

2639
01:42:21,430 --> 01:42:18,800
of explanation um it's not the

2640
01:42:23,669 --> 01:42:21,440
mainstream one but i mean but but the

2641
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:23,679
mainstream in many cases i mean they

2642
01:42:27,750 --> 01:42:26,880
don't have any explanation at all

2643
01:42:29,590 --> 01:42:27,760
um

2644
01:42:31,109 --> 01:42:29,600
in this in the case of kiwanako and

2645
01:42:33,590 --> 01:42:31,119
pumapuku

2646
01:42:34,870 --> 01:42:33,600
their explanation is that it's um cult

2647
01:42:35,750 --> 01:42:34,880
center

2648
01:42:37,270 --> 01:42:35,760
uh

2649
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:37,280
some

2650
01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:40,080
andean indians yeah but why would they

2651
01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:42,960
they carve those h blocks which we would

2652
01:42:47,510 --> 01:42:45,040
have a hard time doing today

2653
01:42:49,669 --> 01:42:47,520
it just makes no sense to me i mean how

2654
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:49,679
do they i mean

2655
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:53,600
and yeah why are they doing that i mean

2656
01:42:57,750 --> 01:42:56,080
just moving and and putting some big

2657
01:43:00,070 --> 01:42:57,760
stone in place is

2658
01:43:03,109 --> 01:43:00,080
difficult enough but like those h blocks

2659
01:43:05,590 --> 01:43:03,119
and things i mean they're

2660
01:43:06,870 --> 01:43:05,600
they're not just you know

2661
01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:06,880
bashing

2662
01:43:11,669 --> 01:43:09,199
stones together and stacking them up

2663
01:43:14,470 --> 01:43:11,679
they're cutting and carving them in very

2664
01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:14,480
articulate and intricate ways so that

2665
01:43:18,629 --> 01:43:16,719
they're going to fit together

2666
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:18,639
and

2667
01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:20,639
what's bizarre is that the mainstream

2668
01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:22,320
archaeologists are saying well they

2669
01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:24,800
don't have these tools they're

2670
01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:27,119
even though they're making these amazing

2671
01:43:32,070 --> 01:43:30,080
h-blocks well cut and articulated

2672
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:32,080
they're doing it with primitive

2673
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:34,560
materials they're they've got a stone

2674
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:36,320
hammer in their hand

2675
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:38,800
to do this they have some little

2676
01:43:41,430 --> 01:43:39,760
uh

2677
01:43:44,310 --> 01:43:41,440
stone chisel

2678
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:44,320
or or perhaps um bronze chisel or

2679
01:43:48,310 --> 01:43:45,679
something like that that they're doing

2680
01:43:51,109 --> 01:43:48,320
all this and would have to be slow

2681
01:43:53,109 --> 01:43:51,119
tedious work to do all that

2682
01:43:54,550 --> 01:43:53,119
and again what for i mean why are they

2683
01:43:55,510 --> 01:43:54,560
even going through all this ever they

2684
01:43:59,030 --> 01:43:55,520
don't

2685
01:44:00,629 --> 01:43:59,040
that

2686
01:44:02,149 --> 01:44:00,639
so the mainstream archaeologists i mean

2687
01:44:06,790 --> 01:44:02,159
they're

2688
01:44:08,629 --> 01:44:06,800
completely missing the point they see

2689
01:44:10,070 --> 01:44:08,639
these things as oh well you know they

2690
01:44:11,830 --> 01:44:10,080
just wanted this thing they wanted to

2691
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:11,840
attract people they made a pyramid so

2692
01:44:15,189 --> 01:44:12,719
that

2693
01:44:16,950 --> 01:44:15,199
uh people could come there and and give

2694
01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:16,960
them gifts and the priests could have

2695
01:44:21,590 --> 01:44:19,520
their flock and all this kind of stuff

2696
01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:21,600
but and they do a similar thing in

2697
01:44:25,990 --> 01:44:24,400
chavin which is another site in

2698
01:44:28,709 --> 01:44:26,000
northern central peru

2699
01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:28,719
but it's all just a fancy cult center

2700
01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:30,000
for some

2701
01:44:33,350 --> 01:44:32,159
uh religious ceremonies or something

2702
01:44:35,830 --> 01:44:33,360
like that

2703
01:44:37,669 --> 01:44:35,840
but when you're at tiwanako and pumapuku

2704
01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:37,679
one of the things that you see you have

2705
01:44:41,189 --> 01:44:39,840
the the keystone cuts you have these

2706
01:44:43,189 --> 01:44:41,199
metal clamps

2707
01:44:46,070 --> 01:44:43,199
they know there were metals there and in

2708
01:44:49,109 --> 01:44:46,080
fact metals were part of the buildings

2709
01:44:51,750 --> 01:44:49,119
and um the the keystone cuts we see

2710
01:44:52,629 --> 01:44:51,760
these double t-shaped cuts and in some

2711
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:52,639
cases

2712
01:44:57,510 --> 01:44:54,400
sometimes they're like an hourglass and

2713
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:57,520
then molten metals are poured in there

2714
01:45:01,350 --> 01:44:59,280
and those metals are you'll see them in

2715
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:01,360
the museum and stuff and and that is a

2716
01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:02,800
technique that's used around the world

2717
01:45:06,390 --> 01:45:04,480
and it's an unusual

2718
01:45:09,430 --> 01:45:06,400
building technique too

2719
01:45:10,870 --> 01:45:09,440
but it involves pouring molten metals

2720
01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:10,880
into

2721
01:45:16,709 --> 01:45:13,679
what are already positioned megalithic

2722
01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:16,719
blocks let's go to more of these details

2723
01:45:20,229 --> 01:45:18,239
in our next segment maybe they had an

2724
01:45:21,189 --> 01:45:20,239
ancient version of the steel workers

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2752
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01:47:53,430 --> 01:47:49,760
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we have david hatcher childress trying

2802
01:48:44,709 --> 01:48:41,920
to discuss the

2803
01:48:47,109 --> 01:48:44,719
construction techniques of the ancients

2804
01:48:48,390 --> 01:48:47,119
using molten metal

2805
01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:48,400
hmm

2806
01:48:53,350 --> 01:48:50,639
they were able to do that

2807
01:48:55,189 --> 01:48:53,360
well right uh and i mean that's kind of

2808
01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:55,199
my point is that

2809
01:49:01,990 --> 01:48:58,400
these structures these these places

2810
01:49:06,550 --> 01:49:04,790
they're really metallurgical centers

2811
01:49:08,870 --> 01:49:06,560
rather than being some

2812
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:08,880
cult center and religious

2813
01:49:13,590 --> 01:49:11,040
center that's so fancy with

2814
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:13,600
artificial lakes and rivers that are

2815
01:49:16,790 --> 01:49:15,040
diverted and

2816
01:49:17,830 --> 01:49:16,800
all kinds of stuff have huge structures

2817
01:49:22,390 --> 01:49:17,840
as well

2818
01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:22,400
the whole area itself is in my mind is

2819
01:49:29,189 --> 01:49:26,080
it's a metallurgical plant uh they

2820
01:49:31,109 --> 01:49:29,199
and of course uh in that area there

2821
01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:31,119
there are lots of metals

2822
01:49:37,590 --> 01:49:34,080
um the andes is a great mining

2823
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:37,600
area and pionenko was known to have

2824
01:49:41,590 --> 01:49:39,360
sheets of gold

2825
01:49:43,669 --> 01:49:41,600
uh that were uh like literally

2826
01:49:44,790 --> 01:49:43,679
wallpapered some of the walls and stuff

2827
01:49:48,629 --> 01:49:44,800
like that

2828
01:49:51,590 --> 01:49:48,639
so it was really a fabulous gold city of

2829
01:49:53,910 --> 01:49:51,600
metals of bronze

2830
01:49:54,790 --> 01:49:53,920
and that is and that's technology right

2831
01:49:55,510 --> 01:49:54,800
there

2832
01:50:01,030 --> 01:49:55,520
so

2833
01:50:03,830 --> 01:50:01,040
in a sense a giant city

2834
01:50:05,590 --> 01:50:03,840
but rather than just being uh

2835
01:50:08,149 --> 01:50:05,600
what archaeologists would say oh yeah

2836
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:08,159
they you know they just wanted a pyramid

2837
01:50:12,149 --> 01:50:10,080
so they people could you know priests

2838
01:50:13,990 --> 01:50:12,159
could you know

2839
01:50:16,229 --> 01:50:14,000
do fun ceremonies you know a couple of

2840
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:16,239
times a year but in but in reality i

2841
01:50:19,109 --> 01:50:17,440
mean they're just missing the whole

2842
01:50:21,910 --> 01:50:19,119
point which is this

2843
01:50:23,669 --> 01:50:21,920
there had to be a huge

2844
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:23,679
metallurgic

2845
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:25,840
processing plant somewhere

2846
01:50:30,310 --> 01:50:28,480
to process to you you've got to

2847
01:50:32,390 --> 01:50:30,320
you've got to wash the oars then you've

2848
01:50:34,310 --> 01:50:32,400
got to heat them you have to have kilns

2849
01:50:36,310 --> 01:50:34,320
uh there are these towers that are all

2850
01:50:38,950 --> 01:50:36,320
around lake titicaca

2851
01:50:41,189 --> 01:50:38,960
archaeologists say they're burial towers

2852
01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:41,199
that these towers that

2853
01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:43,440
could have easily have been the kilns

2854
01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:44,239
for

2855
01:50:47,030 --> 01:50:45,840
uh the the

2856
01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:47,040
the

2857
01:50:51,350 --> 01:50:49,440
you need charcoal you you've got

2858
01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:51,360
literally have to make these

2859
01:50:57,590 --> 01:50:54,000
uh super hot furnaces

2860
01:51:01,030 --> 01:50:57,600
you then melt the ore then you you

2861
01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:01,040
you've got to mix alloys together in

2862
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:02,800
order to

2863
01:51:07,750 --> 01:51:05,280
create bronze and whatnot

2864
01:51:09,669 --> 01:51:07,760
so so rather than

2865
01:51:11,750 --> 01:51:09,679
having just some

2866
01:51:14,550 --> 01:51:11,760
simple people trying to create a cult

2867
01:51:17,590 --> 01:51:14,560
center what you have instead

2868
01:51:20,229 --> 01:51:17,600
is a bethlehem fieldworks

2869
01:51:23,669 --> 01:51:20,239
that's with a foundry and and you've got

2870
01:51:27,109 --> 01:51:23,679
molten metals you've got raw oars

2871
01:51:29,590 --> 01:51:27,119
you've got to have charcoal and kilns

2872
01:51:31,750 --> 01:51:29,600
and in the end you have all of these

2873
01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:31,760
iron smiths and goldsmiths

2874
01:51:37,109 --> 01:51:33,199
bashing out

2875
01:51:40,149 --> 01:51:37,119
gold plates and and literally

2876
01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:40,159
chisels and and other metal artifacts

2877
01:51:44,390 --> 01:51:42,400
out of bronze and they're pouring it

2878
01:51:47,669 --> 01:51:44,400
into the blocks

2879
01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:47,679
and using that for that uh to

2880
01:51:51,350 --> 01:51:49,760
to hold the blocks together

2881
01:51:54,470 --> 01:51:51,360
so it's the evidence yeah when i go to

2882
01:51:56,790 --> 01:51:54,480
tiwanako i'm seeing a giant metal

2883
01:51:58,629 --> 01:51:56,800
foundry but archaeologists you know

2884
01:52:00,470 --> 01:51:58,639
don't see that at all but what happened

2885
01:52:03,189 --> 01:52:00,480
to all the metal uh fab you know the

2886
01:52:04,629 --> 01:52:03,199
fabricated objects the tools the uh you

2887
01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:04,639
know the things that were being created

2888
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:06,400
at this at this complex i mean why don't

2889
01:52:10,310 --> 01:52:08,320
we have any evidence of that well there

2890
01:52:13,030 --> 01:52:10,320
is evidence and if you go to the museum

2891
01:52:14,950 --> 01:52:13,040
and at tiwanaco you'll see some of those

2892
01:52:16,629 --> 01:52:14,960
but most of them are gone

2893
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:16,639
i mean the whole place has been looted

2894
01:52:20,470 --> 01:52:18,480
and in fact

2895
01:52:22,790 --> 01:52:20,480
essentially again if you're just a

2896
01:52:24,470 --> 01:52:22,800
wandering tribe

2897
01:52:26,070 --> 01:52:24,480
moving through the andes and you come

2898
01:52:28,470 --> 01:52:26,080
across the

2899
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:28,480
ruins of this giant city and tiwanako is

2900
01:52:32,229 --> 01:52:30,480
completely utterly destroyed

2901
01:52:35,109 --> 01:52:32,239
through some in my mind through some

2902
01:52:36,950 --> 01:52:35,119
cataclysm earthquakes and

2903
01:52:38,550 --> 01:52:36,960
literally a tidal wave from lake

2904
01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:38,560
titicaca

2905
01:52:41,589 --> 01:52:40,239
that wiped it out

2906
01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:41,599
but and so

2907
01:52:46,550 --> 01:52:44,400
the buildings of and are huge have

2908
01:52:48,790 --> 01:52:46,560
you know they've come down

2909
01:52:50,629 --> 01:52:48,800
and so because so

2910
01:52:53,030 --> 01:52:50,639
some of the walls are destroyed

2911
01:52:54,629 --> 01:52:53,040
you'll see some of these metal clamps

2912
01:52:57,109 --> 01:52:54,639
but if you're a wandering tribe you're

2913
01:52:59,189 --> 01:52:57,119
going to take those metal clamps

2914
01:53:01,669 --> 01:52:59,199
you'll pry them out and then you'll

2915
01:53:03,669 --> 01:53:01,679
you'll hammer it into a

2916
01:53:05,669 --> 01:53:03,679
into a knife or a sword or a spearhead

2917
01:53:08,229 --> 01:53:05,679
or something like that the ones that

2918
01:53:10,390 --> 01:53:08,239
they find are ones that are buried and

2919
01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:10,400
because this tidal wave

2920
01:53:20,229 --> 01:53:17,350
much of it's just buried under literally

2921
01:53:23,830 --> 01:53:20,239
20 feet of mud and muck so

2922
01:53:25,990 --> 01:53:23,840
as they dig that out they'll then find

2923
01:53:29,189 --> 01:53:26,000
blocks of stone that have the metal

2924
01:53:31,589 --> 01:53:29,199
pieces in them and they're still there

2925
01:53:32,870 --> 01:53:31,599
and and so you will see some in the in

2926
01:53:35,990 --> 01:53:32,880
the museum

2927
01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:36,000
but you know gold metal is is so

2928
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:38,080
valuable and uh

2929
01:53:41,589 --> 01:53:39,040
whenever

2930
01:53:43,510 --> 01:53:41,599
especially to a stone age civilization

2931
01:53:45,350 --> 01:53:43,520
well that's right

2932
01:53:46,390 --> 01:53:45,360
well okay let's let's move on here a

2933
01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:46,400
little bit because we need to get to

2934
01:53:50,070 --> 01:53:48,480
some of these questions um we do have a

2935
01:53:52,709 --> 01:53:50,080
couple of questions about your latest

2936
01:53:55,189 --> 01:53:52,719
book uh which was on the vamanas which

2937
01:53:56,870 --> 01:53:55,199
are the ancient aircraft of india and a

2938
01:53:58,550 --> 01:53:56,880
couple of people have kind of scratching

2939
01:53:59,910 --> 01:53:58,560
their heads and they're wondering

2940
01:54:02,470 --> 01:53:59,920
um you know

2941
01:54:04,629 --> 01:54:02,480
in in one of your uh questions here it

2942
01:54:06,310 --> 01:54:04,639
says when you work on vamanas you draw

2943
01:54:07,430 --> 01:54:06,320
heavily on the

2944
01:54:09,589 --> 01:54:07,440
vamanica

2945
01:54:11,830 --> 01:54:09,599
shastra worked psychically channeled and

2946
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:11,840
written down in post-world war one years

2947
01:54:15,270 --> 01:54:13,199
well the question is what are your

2948
01:54:16,950 --> 01:54:15,280
reasoning reasons for treating it as a

2949
01:54:18,870 --> 01:54:16,960
generally ancient text which i'm not

2950
01:54:21,830 --> 01:54:18,880
sure you do this is a question from

2951
01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:21,840
bonaventure and then another question is

2952
01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:23,920
your theories in the literal reality of

2953
01:54:26,870 --> 01:54:24,800
a modest have been called the

2954
01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:26,880
fundamentalist reading of material which

2955
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:28,960
was written more so as allegoric myth or

2956
01:54:32,550 --> 01:54:30,080
the advancement of spiritual

2957
01:54:34,229 --> 01:54:32,560
understanding and less so as a factual

2958
01:54:36,070 --> 01:54:34,239
account of warring gods

2959
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:36,080
what are your thoughts on that and and

2960
01:54:41,030 --> 01:54:37,840
the practice of supporting historical

2961
01:54:42,170 --> 01:54:41,040
theories with religious texts in general

2962
01:54:43,270 --> 01:54:42,180
well sure i mean um

2963
01:54:46,950 --> 01:54:43,280
[Music]

2964
01:54:49,669 --> 01:54:46,960
in my mind religious texts

2965
01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:49,679
and myths and legends

2966
01:54:53,350 --> 01:54:51,520
from around the world have

2967
01:54:55,109 --> 01:54:53,360
some validity

2968
01:54:56,709 --> 01:54:55,119
we can't necessarily take them

2969
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:56,719
completely

2970
01:54:59,350 --> 01:54:58,320
literally

2971
01:55:02,470 --> 01:54:59,360
and

2972
01:55:04,950 --> 01:55:02,480
i mean i think it's fair to assume

2973
01:55:07,510 --> 01:55:04,960
although many people do take everything

2974
01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:07,520
in the bible or the quran or

2975
01:55:12,070 --> 01:55:10,080
bhagavad-gita or ramayana completely

2976
01:55:14,149 --> 01:55:12,080
literally i mean this is you know

2977
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:14,159
that's a scary thought

2978
01:55:17,510 --> 01:55:16,320
yeah and i i mean i certainly don't do

2979
01:55:19,990 --> 01:55:17,520
that and

2980
01:55:24,229 --> 01:55:20,000
um but yet i don't completely discount

2981
01:55:29,030 --> 01:55:26,709
i try to find a balance there that yeah

2982
01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:29,040
there's there's something valid here uh

2983
01:55:34,390 --> 01:55:31,199
it's an interesting story

2984
01:55:36,470 --> 01:55:34,400
uh can there be some truth to it

2985
01:55:40,790 --> 01:55:36,480
um and it's certainly when it comes to

2986
01:55:46,310 --> 01:55:43,910
with the whole idea i mean it's not just

2987
01:55:47,510 --> 01:55:46,320
ramayana the mahabharata talking about

2988
01:55:48,310 --> 01:55:47,520
vamanas

2989
01:55:50,950 --> 01:55:48,320
um

2990
01:55:52,310 --> 01:55:50,960
the cabernet gas which is an ethiopian

2991
01:55:55,910 --> 01:55:52,320
sacred book

2992
01:55:58,070 --> 01:55:55,920
talks about uh flying ships and airships

2993
01:56:01,189 --> 01:55:58,080
and the king people flying

2994
01:56:03,589 --> 01:56:01,199
very specific about that uh

2995
01:56:06,310 --> 01:56:03,599
had a flying carpet didn't he

2996
01:56:08,790 --> 01:56:06,320
well yeah and king solomon supposedly

2997
01:56:10,310 --> 01:56:08,800
yeah flew um

2998
01:56:11,350 --> 01:56:10,320
and and that's also in the cavern

2999
01:56:13,109 --> 01:56:11,360
against

3000
01:56:15,589 --> 01:56:13,119
you have the ark of the covenant that we

3001
01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:15,599
were talking about earlier it flew and

3002
01:56:19,189 --> 01:56:17,040
it

3003
01:56:21,430 --> 01:56:19,199
caused things to to fly

3004
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:21,440
uh the israelites followed this pillar

3005
01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:24,480
of fire uh through the desert also these

3006
01:56:29,030 --> 01:56:26,560
lights and the ark itself would lead

3007
01:56:30,709 --> 01:56:29,040
them and supposedly fly through the air

3008
01:56:32,790 --> 01:56:30,719
you have so we should take all these

3009
01:56:34,950 --> 01:56:32,800
things literally then

3010
01:56:38,149 --> 01:56:34,960
well i i mean

3011
01:56:43,589 --> 01:56:41,189
in my mind i think we can interpret

3012
01:56:45,990 --> 01:56:43,599
some of these things as as yeah there's

3013
01:56:47,510 --> 01:56:46,000
something there when it comes to the ark

3014
01:56:49,270 --> 01:56:47,520
of the covenant

3015
01:56:51,750 --> 01:56:49,280
as an example

3016
01:56:52,709 --> 01:56:51,760
uh and it's my new book that i'm working

3017
01:56:54,790 --> 01:56:52,719
on now

3018
01:56:57,109 --> 01:56:54,800
there's something to it i mean it's not

3019
01:56:59,430 --> 01:56:57,119
just in my mind it's not just completely

3020
01:57:00,390 --> 01:56:59,440
utterly fabricated there's something

3021
01:57:03,350 --> 01:57:00,400
there

3022
01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:03,360
uh they had some object they carried it

3023
01:57:08,149 --> 01:57:05,360
whether it could do all the things that

3024
01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:08,159
they say it did i in fact i doubt if it

3025
01:57:10,390 --> 01:57:09,280
could

3026
01:57:12,390 --> 01:57:10,400
but

3027
01:57:14,070 --> 01:57:12,400
it's you know i'm not going to just

3028
01:57:16,870 --> 01:57:14,080
discount it and in fact you know i'm

3029
01:57:19,030 --> 01:57:16,880
convinced um and anyone who

3030
01:57:20,870 --> 01:57:19,040
reads my books would

3031
01:57:23,750 --> 01:57:20,880
would know this that i'm convinced that

3032
01:57:26,550 --> 01:57:23,760
in ancient times they had advanced

3033
01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:26,560
technology much as we have today

3034
01:57:29,589 --> 01:57:28,480
we have david hatcher childress we're

3035
01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:29,599
talking about

3036
01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:31,599
ancient mysteries and more with gene and

3037
01:57:37,510 --> 01:57:33,410
chris you're in

3038
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with gene and chris we have david

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hatcher childress adventurer

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man about town no that's is that true no

3140
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i don't think it's true let's continue

3141
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discussing the ancient mysteries so

3142
02:02:17,910 --> 02:02:15,360
the point here i gather is that

3143
02:02:20,149 --> 02:02:17,920
traditional archaeologist david are

3144
02:02:22,470 --> 02:02:20,159
trying to whether it's done with swiss

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02:02:25,430 --> 02:02:22,480
cheese logic or anything find a

3146
02:02:27,910 --> 02:02:25,440
conventional explanation for everything

3147
02:02:30,229 --> 02:02:27,920
that people like you report in terms of

3148
02:02:32,709 --> 02:02:30,239
things that show advanced technologies

3149
02:02:36,149 --> 02:02:32,719
they're assuming it can't so let's twist

3150
02:02:37,990 --> 02:02:36,159
it around to find ways that it fits

3151
02:02:40,229 --> 02:02:38,000
is that what's happening here

3152
02:02:42,709 --> 02:02:40,239
well right and i mean

3153
02:02:43,750 --> 02:02:42,719
what i'm maintaining is

3154
02:02:48,950 --> 02:02:43,760
that

3155
02:02:52,629 --> 02:02:48,960
and whether the science the technology

3156
02:02:55,830 --> 02:02:52,639
whether it's it's flight or electricity

3157
02:02:58,550 --> 02:02:55,840
whether it's uh power tools

3158
02:03:01,109 --> 02:02:58,560
giant cranes and and even as far as i'm

3159
02:03:03,589 --> 02:03:01,119
concerned heavy machinery

3160
02:03:05,750 --> 02:03:03,599
we have it today and there's no reason

3161
02:03:07,750 --> 02:03:05,760
why in ancient times people couldn't

3162
02:03:10,310 --> 02:03:07,760
have had those things too

3163
02:03:12,470 --> 02:03:10,320
when you look at technology

3164
02:03:13,350 --> 02:03:12,480
in order to have heavy cranes in in

3165
02:03:14,629 --> 02:03:13,360
large

3166
02:03:17,189 --> 02:03:14,639
mechanical

3167
02:03:19,350 --> 02:03:17,199
devices i mean there's there would be at

3168
02:03:22,229 --> 02:03:19,360
least some evidence of this and we have

3169
02:03:24,870 --> 02:03:22,239
absolutely none we have no evidence

3170
02:03:26,629 --> 02:03:24,880
of any sort of uh you know

3171
02:03:29,510 --> 02:03:26,639
high technology

3172
02:03:31,990 --> 02:03:29,520
uh from the past i mean you know sure we

3173
02:03:34,709 --> 02:03:32,000
have the baghdad battery and the uh you

3174
02:03:38,070 --> 02:03:34,719
know the the greek uh you know

3175
02:03:40,149 --> 02:03:38,080
i'm not sure how to pronounce it but

3176
02:03:41,109 --> 02:03:40,159
what you're talking about is there a

3177
02:03:42,709 --> 02:03:41,119
device

3178
02:03:44,390 --> 02:03:42,719
all i'm saying is that we don't really

3179
02:03:47,270 --> 02:03:44,400
have evidence of

3180
02:03:48,629 --> 02:03:47,280
of large heavy machinery or power power

3181
02:03:50,550 --> 02:03:48,639
equipment or

3182
02:03:53,030 --> 02:03:50,560
anything along those lines

3183
02:03:55,430 --> 02:03:53,040
well i think we do i mean that's

3184
02:03:58,070 --> 02:03:55,440
that's what my book technology the gods

3185
02:04:00,149 --> 02:03:58,080
and and my book on vermonters is

3186
02:04:02,229 --> 02:04:00,159
is all about that um

3187
02:04:04,310 --> 02:04:02,239
well we have evidence as far as the

3188
02:04:06,310 --> 02:04:04,320
results of utilizing that sort of

3189
02:04:08,830 --> 02:04:06,320
technology but the actual tools that

3190
02:04:12,229 --> 02:04:08,840
were used we don't have have solid

3191
02:04:14,310 --> 02:04:12,239
physical evidence in artifacts that uh

3192
02:04:16,790 --> 02:04:14,320
that show uh an exalted high technique

3193
02:04:19,750 --> 02:04:16,800
well okay yeah sure that's right and um

3194
02:04:22,070 --> 02:04:19,760
we do have there are certain

3195
02:04:23,270 --> 02:04:22,080
there are certain gold artifacts that

3196
02:04:25,669 --> 02:04:23,280
are are

3197
02:04:28,629 --> 02:04:25,679
really jewelry and

3198
02:04:30,390 --> 02:04:28,639
in fact i was i was just in colombia

3199
02:04:33,030 --> 02:04:30,400
viewing the famous gold museum where

3200
02:04:35,910 --> 02:04:33,040
they have these so-called famous gold

3201
02:04:37,270 --> 02:04:35,920
airplanes there and they are there

3202
02:04:38,629 --> 02:04:37,280
and they have them on display they're

3203
02:04:40,709 --> 02:04:38,639
small

3204
02:04:42,390 --> 02:04:40,719
and and they're gold they're they're

3205
02:04:44,870 --> 02:04:42,400
pure gold

3206
02:04:47,990 --> 02:04:44,880
and in fact the gold museum in bogota is

3207
02:04:51,350 --> 02:04:48,000
it's well it's full of gold and uh gold

3208
02:04:54,149 --> 02:04:51,360
gold is indestructible all gold from

3209
02:04:56,390 --> 02:04:54,159
ancient times still exists today

3210
02:04:58,709 --> 02:04:56,400
you cannot destroy gold

3211
02:05:00,790 --> 02:04:58,719
as an element i mean it and that's

3212
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something that's special about gold

3213
02:05:03,990 --> 02:05:02,719
other metals and

3214
02:05:06,870 --> 02:05:04,000
um

3215
02:05:09,430 --> 02:05:06,880
and most other elements of materials

3216
02:05:10,790 --> 02:05:09,440
except for basalt or and you know quartz

3217
02:05:12,870 --> 02:05:10,800
crystals and things although they can be

3218
02:05:15,830 --> 02:05:12,880
crushed and round

3219
02:05:18,550 --> 02:05:15,840
and and metals particularly will oxidize

3220
02:05:20,550 --> 02:05:18,560
and and they'll rust um

3221
02:05:23,350 --> 02:05:20,560
gold is too soft

3222
02:05:24,790 --> 02:05:23,360
to really make any kind of meaningful

3223
02:05:27,189 --> 02:05:24,800
tool out of

3224
02:05:30,070 --> 02:05:27,199
it's okay in electrical devices and it's

3225
02:05:32,310 --> 02:05:30,080
a good conductor of electricity

3226
02:05:35,030 --> 02:05:32,320
and it doesn't corrode but otherwise you

3227
02:05:37,270 --> 02:05:35,040
can't really make saws and

3228
02:05:38,709 --> 02:05:37,280
chisels and hammers and things like that

3229
02:05:41,109 --> 02:05:38,719
out of gold

3230
02:05:43,830 --> 02:05:41,119
you have to make those really out of

3231
02:05:46,470 --> 02:05:43,840
ideally of iron and steel

3232
02:05:48,550 --> 02:05:46,480
or say bronze or things like that

3233
02:05:50,390 --> 02:05:48,560
but those all those metals will corrode

3234
02:05:54,070 --> 02:05:50,400
and and rust away

3235
02:05:56,790 --> 02:05:54,080
if you took a bulldozer and parked it

3236
02:05:59,109 --> 02:05:56,800
in your backyard and left it there

3237
02:06:01,589 --> 02:05:59,119
over time of

3238
02:06:03,589 --> 02:06:01,599
maybe would take 100 years or something

3239
02:06:05,430 --> 02:06:03,599
it'll rest away and it'll

3240
02:06:06,470 --> 02:06:05,440
literally just turn into a pile of red

3241
02:06:08,070 --> 02:06:06,480
dust

3242
02:06:10,229 --> 02:06:08,080
um and that's

3243
02:06:11,270 --> 02:06:10,239
what would happen to

3244
02:06:14,470 --> 02:06:11,280
um

3245
02:06:16,870 --> 02:06:14,480
an aircraft or any kind of

3246
02:06:19,510 --> 02:06:16,880
vehicle i mean

3247
02:06:20,870 --> 02:06:19,520
as an example

3248
02:06:24,550 --> 02:06:20,880
we don't really

3249
02:06:27,030 --> 02:06:24,560
look like

3250
02:06:28,870 --> 02:06:27,040
we don't have very

3251
02:06:31,430 --> 02:06:28,880
good renditions of

3252
02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:31,440
and pictures of them there are a few

3253
02:06:36,069 --> 02:06:35,280
and we fortunately have some ceramics

3254
02:06:37,669 --> 02:06:36,079
from

3255
02:06:39,109 --> 02:06:37,679
ancient greece

3256
02:06:42,229 --> 02:06:39,119
and there is

3257
02:06:46,069 --> 02:06:42,239
on the island of roads there's one

3258
02:06:48,310 --> 02:06:46,079
carved relief of the of a prowl of

3259
02:06:50,310 --> 02:06:48,320
of a greek ship and we know the greeks

3260
02:06:52,870 --> 02:06:50,320
had lots of ships and

3261
02:06:54,629 --> 02:06:52,880
they they built huge ships and they

3262
02:06:55,830 --> 02:06:54,639
sailed all over the mediterranean and

3263
02:06:57,990 --> 02:06:55,840
out into the

3264
02:06:59,109 --> 02:06:58,000
atlantic and up the black sea i mean

3265
02:07:01,669 --> 02:06:59,119
they must have had thousands of

3266
02:07:04,149 --> 02:07:01,679
thousands of ships but they didn't they

3267
02:07:06,229 --> 02:07:04,159
didn't really depict them and

3268
02:07:09,030 --> 02:07:06,239
their artistry and stuff

3269
02:07:10,950 --> 02:07:09,040
yeah so i mean how about green fire what

3270
02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:10,960
was greek fire do you think we still

3271
02:07:14,550 --> 02:07:12,960
don't well you see yeah more of and

3272
02:07:15,830 --> 02:07:14,560
greek fire started something like that

3273
02:07:17,510 --> 02:07:15,840
too where

3274
02:07:19,750 --> 02:07:17,520
they had this

3275
02:07:21,589 --> 02:07:19,760
this fire this chemical mixture and it

3276
02:07:23,510 --> 02:07:21,599
would burn underwater

3277
02:07:25,589 --> 02:07:23,520
and they would fling it with catapults

3278
02:07:27,589 --> 02:07:25,599
and stuff onto enemy ships and

3279
02:07:29,990 --> 02:07:27,599
and uh would start the ships on fire and

3280
02:07:30,950 --> 02:07:30,000
they couldn't put it out and even

3281
02:07:32,550 --> 02:07:30,960
uh

3282
02:07:33,430 --> 02:07:32,560
and they and we don't know what it was

3283
02:07:35,910 --> 02:07:33,440
today

3284
02:07:38,709 --> 02:07:35,920
we know there are descriptions of it of

3285
02:07:40,950 --> 02:07:38,719
in ancient times too um

3286
02:07:43,830 --> 02:07:40,960
people wanted to keep secrets

3287
02:07:45,750 --> 02:07:43,840
and if you read about stories and i i

3288
02:07:48,629 --> 02:07:45,760
you know i try and put all this as much

3289
02:07:50,550 --> 02:07:48,639
as i can into my books on the manas and

3290
02:07:52,470 --> 02:07:50,560
uh technology of the gods and whatnot

3291
02:07:54,470 --> 02:07:52,480
but ancient people were constantly they

3292
02:07:57,270 --> 02:07:54,480
wanted to keep secrets and with when

3293
02:08:01,189 --> 02:07:57,280
they had technological secrets

3294
02:08:03,990 --> 02:08:01,199
greek fire is a good example even of of

3295
02:08:05,430 --> 02:08:04,000
flight and and building some kind of

3296
02:08:07,030 --> 02:08:05,440
airship whether it was you know could

3297
02:08:10,229 --> 02:08:07,040
have been like a zeppelin or a balloon

3298
02:08:12,310 --> 02:08:10,239
or whatever i want to know what soma was

3299
02:08:14,709 --> 02:08:12,320
well yeah

3300
02:08:17,430 --> 02:08:14,719
so anyway ancient people this was this

3301
02:08:19,030 --> 02:08:17,440
is a problem that we have too where

3302
02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:19,040
uh certain

3303
02:08:21,510 --> 02:08:19,840
uh

3304
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:21,520
guilds and

3305
02:08:25,430 --> 02:08:22,480
um

3306
02:08:26,470 --> 02:08:25,440
you know you're part of a masonic guild

3307
02:08:28,390 --> 02:08:26,480
or

3308
02:08:30,950 --> 02:08:28,400
blacksmiths were

3309
02:08:33,750 --> 02:08:30,960
very much like this and in fact

3310
02:08:34,950 --> 02:08:33,760
people who worked as blacksmiths in in

3311
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the middle ages

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had special reputations and people were

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afraid of them

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you could be cursed by blacksmiths and

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kind of evil eye and there's the

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expression called a tanker's dam

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where and a tinker was also a

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kind of a minor sort of blacksmith who

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went around fixing people's pots and

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things like that

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but because blacksmiths worked with

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molten metals and

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and and hot fires and they did they did

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things that other people couldn't do and

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and people had had a fear of them

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um

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and and they had secrets

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um

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you you can't do what they do they they

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have these you know certain

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talents

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uh that they

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that they were taught and

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and now they go from town to town and

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and they use their talents but they keep

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it a secret

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so

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this has gone on throughout ancient

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times and

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throughout history if you read things

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they'll even explain things this is in

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some of the ancient indian texts

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where they'll say oh yeah well

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uh

3345
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and in china they would do this um

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they get some inventor who makes

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something

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for the king and then he's then the king

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has him killed so he can't go and make

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it for somebody else he can't profit

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from his inventions because they didn't

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have

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patent laws in those years i'm being a

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little silly here but we're going to do

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a break now and get more of listener

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things from david hatcher childress

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adventurer

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and archaeologist

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man about town who learn in the orient

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the incredible secret to cloud men's

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mind so they cannot see him well that's

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the wrong

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person that's not david that's lamont

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we'll talk about that later with jeanne

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3471
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i know that david hatcher childress is

3472
02:15:05,350 --> 02:15:03,760
going to try to find some ancient indian

3473
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curse or something

3474
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after i

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okay here's one i got a good question

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for you

3477
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what are some of the most exciting

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discoveries in the fields of archaeology

3479
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and ufology over the past few years that

3480
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intrigue you the most that one comes

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fields of ufology and archaeology in the

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past few years anything uh kind of jump

3485
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out

3486
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you know

3487
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the next issue of our of our magazine

3488
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world explorer

3489
02:15:41,910 --> 02:15:39,360
has a couple of interesting articles in

3490
02:15:45,189 --> 02:15:41,920
it and and one of them is about um this

3491
02:15:47,910 --> 02:15:45,199
place in indonesia called padang gurang

3492
02:15:49,350 --> 02:15:47,920
or padang gunang

3493
02:15:52,390 --> 02:15:49,360
and it is this

3494
02:15:53,189 --> 02:15:52,400
basalt mountain like man medal

3495
02:15:56,629 --> 02:15:53,199
of

3496
02:15:58,629 --> 02:15:56,639
all these prismatic assaults

3497
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stacked up on this this huge mountain

3498
02:16:01,669 --> 02:15:59,360
it's

3499
02:16:04,310 --> 02:16:01,679
i've not been there um and i'm wanting

3500
02:16:06,550 --> 02:16:04,320
to go i only really found out about it

3501
02:16:09,270 --> 02:16:06,560
about it a year or so ago

3502
02:16:10,709 --> 02:16:09,280
but they're dating it to around 20 000

3503
02:16:13,030 --> 02:16:10,719
bc

3504
02:16:14,069 --> 02:16:13,040
it's apparently man-made

3505
02:16:15,990 --> 02:16:14,079
and

3506
02:16:19,910 --> 02:16:16,000
it's intriguing to me because it's like

3507
02:16:21,350 --> 02:16:19,920
man at all in uh the micronesian island

3508
02:16:22,390 --> 02:16:21,360
of penape

3509
02:16:24,709 --> 02:16:22,400
where it's

3510
02:16:26,790 --> 02:16:24,719
what would appear to be millions of tons

3511
02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:26,800
of battles wow that would be the oldest

3512
02:16:30,470 --> 02:16:28,560
archaeological site on the planet that

3513
02:16:33,190 --> 02:16:30,480
we've discussed i mean uh yeah i mean

3514
02:16:35,830 --> 02:16:33,200
this would be ten thousand years older

3515
02:16:37,270 --> 02:16:35,840
than gobekli tepi say which is the one

3516
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:37,280
they're saying is the oldest at this

3517
02:16:41,750 --> 02:16:39,679
point and i've always been intrigued

3518
02:16:44,070 --> 02:16:41,760
with indonesia and

3519
02:16:47,110 --> 02:16:44,080
kind of pacific islands there

3520
02:16:49,830 --> 02:16:47,120
that is where uh the banana

3521
02:16:51,750 --> 02:16:49,840
originated and bananas are

3522
02:16:53,030 --> 02:16:51,760
kind of a weird thing

3523
02:16:55,110 --> 02:16:53,040
since we're talking about ancient

3524
02:16:56,070 --> 02:16:55,120
civilizations and whatnot

3525
02:16:59,589 --> 02:16:56,080
um

3526
02:17:01,190 --> 02:16:59,599
bananas are all over the world and are

3527
02:17:03,030 --> 02:17:01,200
they're mysterious

3528
02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:03,040
they're a complete food

3529
02:17:07,669 --> 02:17:05,200
um they bananas are thought to have

3530
02:17:08,549 --> 02:17:07,679
originated in northern australia new

3531
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guinea

3532
02:17:14,389 --> 02:17:11,679
uh the very eastern part of indonesia

3533
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and bananas are a tallest grass

3534
02:17:20,070 --> 02:17:17,840
each any banana plant is only a year old

3535
02:17:22,469 --> 02:17:20,080
it makes one bunch of bananas

3536
02:17:25,349 --> 02:17:22,479
and it's a seedless fruit

3537
02:17:27,589 --> 02:17:25,359
bananas are one of the few foods that

3538
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you can completely live on

3539
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and

3540
02:17:32,629 --> 02:17:30,880
it's it's some kind of genetically

3541
02:17:35,190 --> 02:17:32,639
engineered food

3542
02:17:38,469 --> 02:17:35,200
from 10 to 20 000 years ago and it's

3543
02:17:39,669 --> 02:17:38,479
it's coming out of indonesia apparently

3544
02:17:42,309 --> 02:17:39,679
and

3545
02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:42,319
it's i mean a banana you cannot plant a

3546
02:17:46,389 --> 02:17:45,200
banana there's no seed in a banana

3547
02:17:50,870 --> 02:17:46,399
bananas

3548
02:17:53,589 --> 02:17:50,880
grasses have to reproduce either by seed

3549
02:17:57,030 --> 02:17:53,599
or from tubers in the ground

3550
02:17:59,349 --> 02:17:57,040
and that's how bananas have to reproduce

3551
02:18:01,750 --> 02:17:59,359
you cannot plant a banana

3552
02:18:03,910 --> 02:18:01,760
but yet bananas are all over the world

3553
02:18:05,270 --> 02:18:03,920
they're in remote

3554
02:18:07,349 --> 02:18:05,280
islands they're

3555
02:18:10,549 --> 02:18:07,359
in remote jungle areas of south america

3556
02:18:13,110 --> 02:18:10,559
they're in remote jungle areas of africa

3557
02:18:15,270 --> 02:18:13,120
they're on virtually every island in the

3558
02:18:18,309 --> 02:18:15,280
pacific and throughout indonesia and

3559
02:18:19,669 --> 02:18:18,319
asia it's the world's most popular fruit

3560
02:18:21,589 --> 02:18:19,679
the banana

3561
02:18:27,830 --> 02:18:21,599
and it's something we eat every day

3562
02:18:33,669 --> 02:18:30,709
they can't explain it in nature nature

3563
02:18:36,709 --> 02:18:33,679
does not create a seedless fruit

3564
02:18:37,770 --> 02:18:36,719
um it's that has to be genetically

3565
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engineered

3566
02:18:41,190 --> 02:18:38,880
[Music]

3567
02:18:42,709 --> 02:18:41,200
some time i mean over ten thousand years

3568
02:18:46,389 --> 02:18:42,719
ago it would seem

3569
02:18:48,389 --> 02:18:46,399
that someone genetically engineered the

3570
02:18:49,990 --> 02:18:48,399
perhaps ancient aliens

3571
02:18:53,429 --> 02:18:50,000
engineered the banana and then

3572
02:18:54,389 --> 02:18:53,439
distributed it all over the world

3573
02:18:57,030 --> 02:18:54,399
um

3574
02:18:59,110 --> 02:18:57,040
and that was quite bad

3575
02:19:00,150 --> 02:18:59,120
that was that was very nice of them

3576
02:19:02,070 --> 02:19:00,160
to do that

3577
02:19:03,750 --> 02:19:02,080
yeah bananas and sunflower seeds are the

3578
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only two things that you can eat only

3579
02:19:08,150 --> 02:19:06,399
them and survive on to my knowledge is

3580
02:19:09,110 --> 02:19:08,160
that right okay sunflower seeds there's

3581
02:19:10,790 --> 02:19:09,120
another one

3582
02:19:13,830 --> 02:19:10,800
there's a fruit in peru called the

3583
02:19:15,830 --> 02:19:13,840
cherimoya fruit and it's a kind of a

3584
02:19:18,629 --> 02:19:15,840
little bit like a pear

3585
02:19:21,110 --> 02:19:18,639
supposedly it too is very nutritious and

3586
02:19:23,030 --> 02:19:21,120
you can completely as far as plants yeah

3587
02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:23,040
it has seeds by the way

3588
02:19:26,709 --> 02:19:24,639
there's a lot of fats out there and

3589
02:19:28,150 --> 02:19:26,719
college college dudes that think that

3590
02:19:30,629 --> 02:19:28,160
they plant their bananas all over the

3591
02:19:35,429 --> 02:19:32,790
but anyway i like to bring up bananas

3592
02:19:36,389 --> 02:19:35,439
because there's something so familiar to

3593
02:19:39,349 --> 02:19:36,399
us we

3594
02:19:42,549 --> 02:19:39,359
we consume so many bananas all of us and

3595
02:19:43,990 --> 02:19:42,559
yet we don't realize how mysterious i

3596
02:19:45,589 --> 02:19:44,000
mean the

3597
02:19:47,589 --> 02:19:45,599
banana itself is

3598
02:19:48,870 --> 02:19:47,599
is unexplained

3599
02:19:51,830 --> 02:19:48,880
so uh

3600
02:19:53,270 --> 02:19:51,840
these things are all around us and it's

3601
02:19:57,030 --> 02:19:53,280
it's kind of my point when we were

3602
02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:57,040
talking about um vamanos or or where's

3603
02:20:00,870 --> 02:19:59,120
the uh evidence of any ancient

3604
02:20:02,950 --> 02:20:00,880
technology or whatever

3605
02:20:04,309 --> 02:20:02,960
in many ways it's all around us but we

3606
02:20:06,389 --> 02:20:04,319
have to

3607
02:20:08,230 --> 02:20:06,399
to look at it and and know what we're

3608
02:20:11,190 --> 02:20:08,240
looking at and

3609
02:20:12,790 --> 02:20:11,200
when you just have when you start

3610
02:20:14,469 --> 02:20:12,800
as the modern archaeologists do with

3611
02:20:17,110 --> 02:20:14,479
just a basic

3612
02:20:18,790 --> 02:20:17,120
assumption that's wrong which is that

3613
02:20:20,469 --> 02:20:18,800
ancient man is

3614
02:20:22,389 --> 02:20:20,479
was primitive they didn't have tools

3615
02:20:23,590 --> 02:20:22,399
they didn't go anywhere they didn't like

3616
02:20:26,790 --> 02:20:23,600
to travel

3617
02:20:28,550 --> 02:20:26,800
um and and they did everything with with

3618
02:20:30,550 --> 02:20:28,560
brute force and

3619
02:20:31,510 --> 02:20:30,560
as simply as they could

3620
02:20:33,670 --> 02:20:31,520
and yet

3621
02:20:34,630 --> 02:20:33,680
that's just the wrong assumption and in

3622
02:20:36,550 --> 02:20:34,640
my mind

3623
02:20:39,349 --> 02:20:36,560
so basically your

3624
02:20:41,830 --> 02:20:39,359
supposition here is let's find out how

3625
02:20:44,710 --> 02:20:41,840
they did it rather than assume they must

3626
02:20:46,070 --> 02:20:44,720
have done it in some very primitive way

3627
02:20:47,270 --> 02:20:46,080
well right and

3628
02:20:49,270 --> 02:20:47,280
in a way

3629
02:20:50,389 --> 02:20:49,280
what i'm also saying is

3630
02:20:54,389 --> 02:20:50,399
finding

3631
02:20:55,830 --> 02:20:54,399
things is also what's important

3632
02:20:58,309 --> 02:20:55,840
and

3633
02:20:59,670 --> 02:20:58,319
in egypt is a good example uh when you

3634
02:21:01,990 --> 02:20:59,680
go and you see

3635
02:21:04,070 --> 02:21:02,000
the giant structures there and starting

3636
02:21:05,910 --> 02:21:04,080
with the great pyramid but there's

3637
02:21:07,670 --> 02:21:05,920
plenty of stuff in egypt there's just so

3638
02:21:09,190 --> 02:21:07,680
much including the obelisks and

3639
02:21:11,429 --> 02:21:09,200
everything

3640
02:21:17,590 --> 02:21:11,439
and

3641
02:21:20,070 --> 02:21:17,600
you've got your phd from

3642
02:21:22,150 --> 02:21:20,080
various universities and you've learned

3643
02:21:23,830 --> 02:21:22,160
who all the pharaohs are and

3644
02:21:25,670 --> 02:21:23,840
i'm the dynasties and you've even

3645
02:21:27,429 --> 02:21:25,680
learned how to read some hieroglyphs and

3646
02:21:29,270 --> 02:21:27,439
all that kind of stuff

3647
02:21:30,070 --> 02:21:29,280
but the thing that you're not an expert

3648
02:21:33,510 --> 02:21:30,080
on

3649
02:21:34,630 --> 02:21:33,520
is engineering and architecture

3650
02:21:36,309 --> 02:21:34,640
and

3651
02:21:38,150 --> 02:21:36,319
you know you

3652
02:21:41,030 --> 02:21:38,160
you haven't gone to school to learn how

3653
02:21:43,030 --> 02:21:41,040
to build giant buildings and from an

3654
02:21:45,670 --> 02:21:43,040
engineer's perspective you haven't you

3655
02:21:47,510 --> 02:21:45,680
haven't gone to school to to you know to

3656
02:21:49,990 --> 02:21:47,520
figure out how the lincoln memorial is

3657
02:21:52,309 --> 02:21:50,000
going to be quarried and moved and built

3658
02:21:54,550 --> 02:21:52,319
that's not something that you've learned

3659
02:21:57,030 --> 02:21:54,560
so you're not an expert you're an

3660
02:21:59,270 --> 02:21:57,040
egyptologist you're an expert on the the

3661
02:22:01,670 --> 02:21:59,280
pharaohs of egypt but you're not an

3662
02:22:04,230 --> 02:22:01,680
expert on quarrying buildings

3663
02:22:06,150 --> 02:22:04,240
moving giant blocks and then you know

3664
02:22:08,389 --> 02:22:06,160
what it would take to run a construction

3665
02:22:10,150 --> 02:22:08,399
crew and build say the great pyramid

3666
02:22:11,349 --> 02:22:10,160
i mean you don't know what you're

3667
02:22:12,230 --> 02:22:11,359
talking about

3668
02:22:14,870 --> 02:22:12,240
but

3669
02:22:17,590 --> 02:22:14,880
and this is the problem

3670
02:22:18,550 --> 02:22:17,600
when you talk egyptologists they don't

3671
02:22:20,150 --> 02:22:18,560
they think they do know what they're

3672
02:22:22,150 --> 02:22:20,160
talking about they think they're

3673
02:22:24,550 --> 02:22:22,160
engineers they think that uh they're

3674
02:22:26,710 --> 02:22:24,560
architects and they'll say oh well you

3675
02:22:28,389 --> 02:22:26,720
know the pharaoh just ordered uh

3676
02:22:30,070 --> 02:22:28,399
his guys to drag all these blocks up

3677
02:22:32,309 --> 02:22:30,080
here and build a giant tomb for him you

3678
02:22:33,349 --> 02:22:32,319
know it's that simple i mean that's what

3679
02:22:36,309 --> 02:22:33,359
they'll say

3680
02:22:38,870 --> 02:22:36,319
and but now but they don't say oh well

3681
02:22:40,630 --> 02:22:38,880
here let's ask this engineer

3682
02:22:42,710 --> 02:22:40,640
over here from the university of cairo

3683
02:22:44,389 --> 02:22:42,720
what he thinks no they don't say that

3684
02:22:45,349 --> 02:22:44,399
and that engineer from the university of

3685
02:22:47,030 --> 02:22:45,359
cairo

3686
02:22:48,309 --> 02:22:47,040
he's not going to say

3687
02:22:51,110 --> 02:22:48,319
he thought

3688
02:22:52,790 --> 02:22:51,120
he'll be nonplussed he'll say i can't i

3689
02:22:53,830 --> 02:22:52,800
can't tell you how they did this i don't

3690
02:23:05,670 --> 02:22:53,840
know

3691
02:23:08,469 --> 02:23:05,680
they could have made this thing

3692
02:23:10,389 --> 02:23:08,479
so this is the problem is that

3693
02:23:11,670 --> 02:23:10,399
uh a lot of the experts aren't they're

3694
02:23:13,349 --> 02:23:11,680
not experts

3695
02:23:15,510 --> 02:23:13,359
and they won't go to the people who are

3696
02:23:16,790 --> 02:23:15,520
the experts because those people will

3697
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:16,800
give them

3698
02:23:18,950 --> 02:23:18,000
answers and questions that they don't

3699
02:23:20,230 --> 02:23:18,960
want to hear

3700
02:23:21,990 --> 02:23:20,240
such as

3701
02:23:23,190 --> 02:23:22,000
we can't explain this we don't know how

3702
02:23:24,469 --> 02:23:23,200
they would do it

3703
02:23:26,389 --> 02:23:24,479
so this is

3704
02:23:28,389 --> 02:23:26,399
like like going to a soccer goalie and

3705
02:23:30,230 --> 02:23:28,399
asking them how to throw a a major

3706
02:23:33,110 --> 02:23:30,240
league fastball

3707
02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:33,120
well you know

3708
02:23:37,670 --> 02:23:35,200
you're actually a smarter person if you

3709
02:23:39,510 --> 02:23:37,680
realize you don't know very much

3710
02:23:41,349 --> 02:23:39,520
when you think you know all kinds of

3711
02:23:43,030 --> 02:23:41,359
things that you don't actually know

3712
02:23:44,950 --> 02:23:43,040
you're you're

3713
02:23:47,110 --> 02:23:44,960
showing your you're dumb really because

3714
02:23:48,630 --> 02:23:47,120
yeah you you don't realize that you're

3715
02:23:50,950 --> 02:23:48,640
you're stupid and you don't know all

3716
02:23:52,950 --> 02:23:50,960
these things you have a bigger than your

3717
02:23:54,309 --> 02:23:52,960
your knowledge base well let's move on

3718
02:23:56,469 --> 02:23:54,319
real quick here i got a question from

3719
02:23:58,550 --> 02:23:56,479
oakenwolf uh we

3720
02:23:59,349 --> 02:23:58,560
have been been posting questions uh to

3721
02:24:01,190 --> 02:23:59,359
our

3722
02:24:02,630 --> 02:24:01,200
guests from him from time to time and

3723
02:24:03,429 --> 02:24:02,640
he's come out of the woodwork for this

3724
02:24:04,790 --> 02:24:03,439
one

3725
02:24:05,910 --> 02:24:04,800
uh it's been a while since we've seen

3726
02:24:08,150 --> 02:24:05,920
him but

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one site that's always interested him

3728
02:24:12,389 --> 02:24:10,399
and he has yet to visit it is american

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3730
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built it and for what reason and also

3731
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any thoughts that the celtic druids and

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hi this is nick pope you're listening to

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02:28:50,150 --> 02:28:48,550
we have david hatcher childress with

3835
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gene and chris in the power cast our

3836
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final segment chris

3837
02:28:56,230 --> 02:28:53,359
well before we went to break i was

3838
02:28:58,550 --> 02:28:56,240
wondering about uh american stonehenge

3839
02:29:00,309 --> 02:28:58,560
and oakenwolf is interested in your take

3840
02:29:03,030 --> 02:29:00,319
on what it is i i'm not familiar with

3841
02:29:04,469 --> 02:29:03,040
this uh with this particular site uh do

3842
02:29:05,990 --> 02:29:04,479
you want to give us a little description

3843
02:29:07,190 --> 02:29:06,000
of it and then give us your thinking

3844
02:29:09,110 --> 02:29:07,200
about it

3845
02:29:10,389 --> 02:29:09,120
yeah i've been there um a couple of

3846
02:29:12,230 --> 02:29:10,399
times it's

3847
02:29:15,670 --> 02:29:12,240
it's in new hampshire it's not too far

3848
02:29:17,429 --> 02:29:15,680
from from boston really and uh it is a

3849
02:29:20,309 --> 02:29:17,439
more or less a megalithic site it has

3850
02:29:22,710 --> 02:29:20,319
stone chambers and

3851
02:29:24,710 --> 02:29:22,720
some standing stones and even dolmens

3852
02:29:25,670 --> 02:29:24,720
and things like that

3853
02:29:28,790 --> 02:29:25,680
it's

3854
02:29:31,030 --> 02:29:28,800
i would say yeah it is uh similar to

3855
02:29:33,590 --> 02:29:31,040
the kind of

3856
02:29:36,550 --> 02:29:33,600
celtic or whatever druid

3857
02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:36,560
monuments that you find in england and

3858
02:29:40,150 --> 02:29:38,160
western europe and stuff and and

3859
02:29:42,630 --> 02:29:40,160
probably was built

3860
02:29:45,349 --> 02:29:42,640
in my mind by that ancient

3861
02:29:46,150 --> 02:29:45,359
celt or whoever i i don't know who built

3862
02:29:58,070 --> 02:29:46,160
it

3863
02:30:01,110 --> 02:29:58,080
the back in the 90s how

3864
02:30:02,950 --> 02:30:01,120
they had invited uh archaeologists from

3865
02:30:04,389 --> 02:30:02,960
from harvard and yale and university of

3866
02:30:06,550 --> 02:30:04,399
massachusetts and stuff

3867
02:30:07,429 --> 02:30:06,560
to come and look at it and examine the

3868
02:30:08,790 --> 02:30:07,439
site

3869
02:30:11,830 --> 02:30:08,800
and they refused

3870
02:30:13,429 --> 02:30:11,840
they simply wouldn't look at it

3871
02:30:14,630 --> 02:30:13,439
and you know so why doesn't that

3872
02:30:15,590 --> 02:30:14,640
surprise me

3873
02:30:18,230 --> 02:30:15,600
yeah

3874
02:30:20,870 --> 02:30:18,240
and and so they just say it's the work

3875
02:30:23,270 --> 02:30:20,880
of an eccentric farmer um

3876
02:30:25,670 --> 02:30:23,280
uh you know it's not some ancient

3877
02:30:27,270 --> 02:30:25,680
megalithic site some farmer in the well

3878
02:30:28,389 --> 02:30:27,280
is it lined up astronomically like the

3879
02:30:30,710 --> 02:30:28,399
world like the

3880
02:30:32,389 --> 02:30:30,720
wilshire stonehenge i mean does it have

3881
02:30:34,150 --> 02:30:32,399
you know like does on the winter

3882
02:30:35,590 --> 02:30:34,160
solstice does the sun shine all the way

3883
02:30:37,750 --> 02:30:35,600
down to the back of the wall or

3884
02:30:40,150 --> 02:30:37,760
something like that well yeah yeah stuff

3885
02:30:42,550 --> 02:30:40,160
like that goes on there and this

3886
02:30:44,870 --> 02:30:42,560
standing stone supposedly

3887
02:30:47,110 --> 02:30:44,880
lines up with

3888
02:30:48,389 --> 02:30:47,120
winter solstice or and their equinoxes

3889
02:30:50,630 --> 02:30:48,399
or something like that

3890
02:30:53,030 --> 02:30:50,640
so yeah um

3891
02:30:54,870 --> 02:30:53,040
there probably is some archaeo astronomy

3892
02:30:56,630 --> 02:30:54,880
finger i would think

3893
02:30:58,070 --> 02:30:56,640
and the people have done and then

3894
02:30:59,590 --> 02:30:58,080
certainly the owners of the site is

3895
02:31:01,510 --> 02:30:59,600
privately owned

3896
02:31:03,030 --> 02:31:01,520
and they have a bookstore there and it's

3897
02:31:04,070 --> 02:31:03,040
a fun place to go

3898
02:31:05,990 --> 02:31:04,080
um

3899
02:31:08,230 --> 02:31:06,000
but again the mainstream archaeologists

3900
02:31:10,150 --> 02:31:08,240
i mean they won't

3901
02:31:13,349 --> 02:31:10,160
they won't even look at it according to

3902
02:31:15,270 --> 02:31:13,359
him i mean they just refuse to to even

3903
02:31:16,309 --> 02:31:15,280
consider this

3904
02:31:18,950 --> 02:31:16,319
so you have

3905
02:31:20,070 --> 02:31:18,960
isn't that intellectually dishonest

3906
02:31:21,830 --> 02:31:20,080
well and

3907
02:31:22,950 --> 02:31:21,840
a lot of it is

3908
02:31:24,870 --> 02:31:22,960
it's kind of what we're talking about

3909
02:31:28,389 --> 02:31:24,880
earlier about history and

3910
02:31:30,389 --> 02:31:28,399
how history is is his story it's not her

3911
02:31:33,670 --> 02:31:30,399
story or their story

3912
02:31:36,150 --> 02:31:33,680
and today history is engineered

3913
02:31:39,190 --> 02:31:36,160
by controlling the past and what we

3914
02:31:41,670 --> 02:31:39,200
think of the past and and and in a sense

3915
02:31:43,670 --> 02:31:41,680
who we are and where we've been and

3916
02:31:44,950 --> 02:31:43,680
where we're coming from by controlling

3917
02:31:47,510 --> 02:31:44,960
all that

3918
02:31:49,110 --> 02:31:47,520
we're we can kind of control the future

3919
02:31:51,830 --> 02:31:49,120
in a sense

3920
02:31:53,830 --> 02:31:51,840
one of the things that's been going on

3921
02:31:55,110 --> 02:31:53,840
in my mind in the last 100 years or

3922
02:31:57,590 --> 02:31:55,120
something is that

3923
02:31:58,870 --> 02:31:57,600
history's been made uh politically

3924
02:32:00,630 --> 02:31:58,880
correct

3925
02:32:03,110 --> 02:32:00,640
and

3926
02:32:05,270 --> 02:32:03,120
it was kind of a problem where yeah all

3927
02:32:07,830 --> 02:32:05,280
these bad things didn't really happen in

3928
02:32:09,270 --> 02:32:07,840
in history

3929
02:32:10,870 --> 02:32:09,280
particularly

3930
02:32:14,230 --> 02:32:10,880
what was going on stayed with native

3931
02:32:17,590 --> 02:32:16,550
apparently north america

3932
02:32:20,389 --> 02:32:17,600
particularly the area of the united

3933
02:32:21,510 --> 02:32:20,399
states was completely depopulated by

3934
02:32:23,590 --> 02:32:21,520
wars

3935
02:32:25,750 --> 02:32:23,600
around 1200 a.d

3936
02:32:28,710 --> 02:32:25,760
and there's evidence that at least

3937
02:32:30,710 --> 02:32:28,720
siberian tribes

3938
02:32:33,190 --> 02:32:30,720
what they call dna

3939
02:32:35,910 --> 02:32:33,200
dna and nadine's speakers

3940
02:32:39,670 --> 02:32:35,920
swept and they and they're siberians

3941
02:32:40,790 --> 02:32:39,680
really they coming from over this they

3942
02:32:43,030 --> 02:32:40,800
they came

3943
02:32:45,270 --> 02:32:43,040
to alaska and down through canada

3944
02:32:48,710 --> 02:32:45,280
and into the midwest of america where

3945
02:32:50,710 --> 02:32:48,720
the mound builder sites were in cahokia

3946
02:32:52,950 --> 02:32:50,720
and these places and they basically

3947
02:32:55,030 --> 02:32:52,960
sieged all these towns and killed

3948
02:32:56,309 --> 02:32:55,040
everybody and ate them

3949
02:32:58,550 --> 02:32:56,319
they moved in

3950
02:32:59,270 --> 02:32:58,560
jesus yeah they were cannibals too and

3951
02:33:03,510 --> 02:32:59,280
they

3952
02:33:06,469 --> 02:33:03,520
southwest

3953
02:33:08,469 --> 02:33:06,479
and they're basically the apache indians

3954
02:33:10,630 --> 02:33:08,479
and i mean they

3955
02:33:12,230 --> 02:33:10,640
they're the siberian speakers

3956
02:33:14,630 --> 02:33:12,240
and they and you know they didn't come

3957
02:33:17,590 --> 02:33:14,640
10 000 years ago across the bering

3958
02:33:20,389 --> 02:33:17,600
straits yeah they came around 1200 a.d

3959
02:33:22,469 --> 02:33:20,399
yeah they're like total newcomers to to

3960
02:33:25,110 --> 02:33:22,479
the americas and they had their

3961
02:33:27,750 --> 02:33:25,120
tps and in fact in siberia and mongolia

3962
02:33:29,429 --> 02:33:27,760
and stuff people have exactly the the

3963
02:33:31,830 --> 02:33:29,439
teepees and

3964
02:33:34,150 --> 02:33:31,840
the travois the those little carriers i

3965
02:33:35,349 --> 02:33:34,160
mean everything that we associate with

3966
02:33:37,670 --> 02:33:35,359
north american indians and their

3967
02:33:39,910 --> 02:33:37,680
lifestyle is how siberians

3968
02:33:42,550 --> 02:33:39,920
and people still live today the yurts

3969
02:33:44,870 --> 02:33:42,560
and tents this is how they lived

3970
02:33:47,030 --> 02:33:44,880
but so as a result north america really

3971
02:33:50,309 --> 02:33:47,040
at the time of european

3972
02:33:52,389 --> 02:33:50,319
expansion into to the americas north

3973
02:33:54,950 --> 02:33:52,399
america had been completely decimated

3974
02:33:57,670 --> 02:33:54,960
and the and that the tribes living there

3975
02:33:59,510 --> 02:33:57,680
lived in basically in the stone age

3976
02:34:01,270 --> 02:33:59,520
even though in ancient

3977
02:34:02,550 --> 02:34:01,280
older times they had metals they had all

3978
02:34:03,990 --> 02:34:02,560
this copper

3979
02:34:06,710 --> 02:34:04,000
from the

3980
02:34:09,190 --> 02:34:06,720
michigan lake lake superior and northern

3981
02:34:12,389 --> 02:34:09,200
michigan and there's tons and tons of

3982
02:34:13,990 --> 02:34:12,399
copper pure copper came out of there

3983
02:34:15,990 --> 02:34:14,000
and in fact they don't archaeologists

3984
02:34:18,230 --> 02:34:16,000
don't know where it went all that copper

3985
02:34:20,309 --> 02:34:18,240
there was so much metal

3986
02:34:22,389 --> 02:34:20,319
and in europe at that time they were

3987
02:34:24,630 --> 02:34:22,399
actually had the copper age

3988
02:34:26,630 --> 02:34:24,640
and everybody had copper and was running

3989
02:34:28,870 --> 02:34:26,640
around in the

3990
02:34:31,830 --> 02:34:28,880
british isles and mediterranean europe

3991
02:34:33,910 --> 02:34:31,840
10 for 10. yeah and then and they had

3992
02:34:35,670 --> 02:34:33,920
the 10 there were copper mines up in in

3993
02:34:37,510 --> 02:34:35,680
wales and stuff like that

3994
02:34:39,030 --> 02:34:37,520
but a lot of they don't know where a lot

3995
02:34:41,429 --> 02:34:39,040
of the copper came from and it probably

3996
02:34:43,270 --> 02:34:41,439
came from north america

3997
02:34:45,990 --> 02:34:43,280
wherever

3998
02:34:48,389 --> 02:34:46,000
you have uh

3999
02:34:50,550 --> 02:34:48,399
to see the highways of any continent

4000
02:34:52,950 --> 02:34:50,560
look at the river system and that is

4001
02:34:55,590 --> 02:34:52,960
what we have in north america too

4002
02:34:59,349 --> 02:34:55,600
the mississippi the ohio valleys

4003
02:35:00,469 --> 02:34:59,359
and the whole idea that ancient people

4004
02:35:02,469 --> 02:35:00,479
didn't

4005
02:35:04,150 --> 02:35:02,479
cross the gulf of mexico like the

4006
02:35:08,150 --> 02:35:04,160
mediterranean

4007
02:35:12,230 --> 02:35:08,160
perfect

4008
02:35:14,710 --> 02:35:12,240
um highway for for yeah for trade and

4009
02:35:17,510 --> 02:35:14,720
and people who in boats and all the port

4010
02:35:19,030 --> 02:35:17,520
cities all around the mediterranean

4011
02:35:20,550 --> 02:35:19,040
well david david we're going to have to

4012
02:35:22,150 --> 02:35:20,560
wrap it up here i mean that that's i

4013
02:35:24,550 --> 02:35:22,160
think a good place to end so that when

4014
02:35:26,950 --> 02:35:24,560
you come back we can we can uh pick this

4015
02:35:28,550 --> 02:35:26,960
up where we left off today uh thank you

4016
02:35:30,630 --> 02:35:28,560
so much for being on the show i know

4017
02:35:32,630 --> 02:35:30,640
you're a busy guy and uh you don't do

4018
02:35:34,070 --> 02:35:32,640
radio normally and i really appreciate

4019
02:35:36,389 --> 02:35:34,080
you coming on answering some of our

4020
02:35:38,389 --> 02:35:36,399
listeners questions i want to just

4021
02:35:40,389 --> 02:35:38,399
mention before we go here

4022
02:35:41,990 --> 02:35:40,399
that um you know i have a

4023
02:35:44,230 --> 02:35:42,000
my brother brendan who i'm very very

4024
02:35:45,910 --> 02:35:44,240
close to uh is is uh really going

4025
02:35:47,670 --> 02:35:45,920
through a major health crisis right now

4026
02:35:48,790 --> 02:35:47,680
and all our listeners out there there is

4027
02:35:51,590 --> 02:35:48,800
a power

4028
02:35:52,950 --> 02:35:51,600
in uh in in coherent thought from uh

4029
02:35:54,389 --> 02:35:52,960
groups of people

4030
02:35:55,670 --> 02:35:54,399
and if you're listening to this i would

4031
02:35:58,550 --> 02:35:55,680
really like you to send out some

4032
02:36:00,710 --> 02:35:58,560
positive vibes and and a prayer possibly

4033
02:36:01,990 --> 02:36:00,720
to my brother he's in the hospital in

4034
02:36:04,389 --> 02:36:02,000
albuquerque

4035
02:36:07,190 --> 02:36:04,399
he's undergoing treatment for a bad

4036
02:36:08,710 --> 02:36:07,200
esophageal tumor please we need all the

4037
02:36:10,309 --> 02:36:08,720
positive thoughts and vibes that we can

4038
02:36:12,389 --> 02:36:10,319
marshal to help him through this health

4039
02:36:14,630 --> 02:36:12,399
crisis and i really would appreciate it

4040
02:36:17,190 --> 02:36:14,640
if you do that for me and also david

4041
02:36:19,270 --> 02:36:17,200
again thank you so much for for being on

4042
02:36:20,870 --> 02:36:19,280
and uh good luck with your research and

4043
02:36:21,830 --> 02:36:20,880
writing the book on on the ark of the

4044
02:36:23,349 --> 02:36:21,840
covenant

4045
02:36:25,670 --> 02:36:23,359
from what little i know of it it's going

4046
02:36:27,110 --> 02:36:25,680
to be fascinating and again

4047
02:36:28,070 --> 02:36:27,120
we really appreciate you being on the

4048
02:36:29,990 --> 02:36:28,080
show

4049
02:36:31,750 --> 02:36:30,000
hey it was great thanks for having me

4050
02:36:33,349 --> 02:36:31,760
listen david let's tell our listeners

4051
02:36:35,830 --> 02:36:33,359
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4052
02:36:37,670 --> 02:36:35,840
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02:36:39,270 --> 02:36:37,680
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4054
02:36:41,110 --> 02:36:39,280
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4055
02:36:44,710 --> 02:36:41,120
yeah they should go to um

4056
02:36:50,710 --> 02:36:47,590
and check our website out we've got uh

4057
02:36:53,429 --> 02:36:50,720
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4058
02:36:54,950 --> 02:36:53,439
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4059
02:36:56,790 --> 02:36:54,960
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4060
02:37:02,550 --> 02:36:56,800
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4061
02:37:06,630 --> 02:37:04,230
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02:37:07,910 --> 02:37:06,640
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4063
02:37:09,670 --> 02:37:07,920
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4064
02:37:11,349 --> 02:37:09,680
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